Laser jammers

[Lift_to_suceed]

Who has experience with them? Are they worth it and what would you recommend?

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[Ruger]

I can tell you this: If you own and operate a laser jammer be prepared to lie to your auto insurance company.

 

[bo1966]

And if I see it be prepared to pay the fine. There are some tthat we can detect.

 

[Lift_to_suceed]

They are legal to use here in Alberta

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[wjn]

Stinger works: https://us.stinger.com/

 

[zombiekiller]

i run ALP systems on my 2 fast cars. I am extremely pleased with them. I run an ****** max 360 and a V1 at the same time.

I installed them because for a while, I bro'd out and did some road rallies.

If I hadn't gotten into road rallies, I probably wouldn't have bothered because I very rarely speed enough to warrant a citation.

The biggest thing that you need to understand is that any of this laser tech will only buy you a maximum of 3 seconds before all of your countermeasures are immaterial.

if you can't slow down to the speed limit and shut your countermeasures off in 1-2 seconds, you're getting a ticket.

If you have to lock up your wheels to slow down fast enough, you're getting a ticket.

If an officer pulls you over for ANYTHING and sees your countermeasures, you're getting a ticket.

the other thing to note as far as detection of the jamming device is that any ticket being written to address actively using laser jamming tech isn't difficult to fight and win. It is near impossible to correlate the unit being powered up and being actively used with a time stamp of it functionally blocked or shifting a speed detection device. most PDs will not invest the time with warrants and tech consultant costs that it would take to do this and the ALP doesnt keep logs that long, so they'd probably be overwritten before a warrant was issued.

this is a moot point in states with statutes written that specify ownership of laser jamming equipment as illegal.

In these scenarios, it also isn't hard to demonstrate the ALP system's use as parking sensors, thus negating the potential illegal nature of ALP's laser shifting capabilities.

 

[bo1966]

I've never seen a ticket I've written be beaten. We get a specific alarm on the gun when one is detected.

 

[zombiekiller]

I've never seen a ticket I've written be beaten. We get a specific alarm on the gun when one is detected.

I've beaten them in 3 states.

But like I said before, I stopped doing road rallies. ( stopped early last year, so if detection has improved that much in the past 18 months, my experience is no longer how things can go.) not many people are tech savvy enough to understand what it would take to prove the infraction without a shadow of a doubt. I educated my lawyer on it based on my level of technical expertise. He found validity in the line of logic and leveraged it in having tickets dismissed.

oh, and I wanted to add that if you are driving in a state where they take laser from overpasses, none of this tech will do a damn thing. the same thing goes for laser being used from the air.

 

[Lift_to_suceed]

i run ALP systems on my 2 fast cars. I am extremely pleased with them. I run an ****** max 360 and a V1 at the same time.

I installed them because for a while, I bro'd out and did some road rallies.

If I hadn't gotten into road rallies, I probably wouldn't have bothered because I very rarely speed enough to warrant a citation.

The biggest thing that you need to understand is that any of this laser tech will only buy you a maximum of 3 seconds before all of your countermeasures are immaterial.

if you can't slow down to the speed limit and shut your countermeasures off in 1-2 seconds, you're getting a ticket.

If you have to lock up your wheels to slow down fast enough, you're getting a ticket.

If an officer pulls you over for ANYTHING and sees your countermeasures, you're getting a ticket.

the other thing to note as far as detection of the jamming device is that any ticket being written to address actively using laser jamming tech isn't difficult to fight and win. It is near impossible to correlate the unit being powered up and being actively used with a time stamp of it functionally blocked or shifting a speed detection device. most PDs will not invest the time with warrants and tech consultant costs that it would take to do this and the ALP doesnt keep logs that long, so they'd probably be overwritten before a warrant was issued.

this is a moot point in states with statutes written that specify ownership of laser jamming equipment as illegal.

In these scenarios, it also isn't hard to demonstrate the ALP system's use as parking sensors, thus negating the potential illegal nature of ALP's laser shifting capabilities.

Thanks for the info, i know they buy you time to slow down which would be fine. The speed limits around here are ridiculous and i just had my first laser ticket last night in almost 6 yrs which is why im curious about them

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[OPT PRIME]

AL Priority makes their sensors and processors in Croatia and frequently tops the charts in parking sensor technology. The firmware is updatable from an iOS. Sold in the US as a parking sensor one “can” go to another European site, hack the firmware and this will build a laser jammer that works on all the guns.

The problem is that quite a few guns can detect a “Jam to Gun” and it is a wiser strategy doing a “Jam to Kill.” Set the system to alert and interfere for 3-4 seconds, knock the speed off, and then the system goes into standby. From the end user perspective the gun will generate a speed readout only after the system goes into standby thus making it difficult for the officer to determine if he’s being unstable with the gun or just having a hard time getting a return. Glossy, clean, black cars are fantastic at scattering the IR beam away from the guns sensor so officers tend to shoot at head lights or license plates, exactly where you put the sensors.

I usually drive speeds safe for conditions and also embrace “engineered speeds” in areas sophisticated enough to establish them. Although infrequent, I sometimes feel the PSL is complete BS. Why is the limit 80-85 in one state and 65 in another under similar settings of sparsely populated areas. It’s a nice insurance policy to “Hicktown USA” that throws a 45 in there hidden behind a tree and the other small towns that rely upon this tax to pay the bills, which subsequently screws up ones insurance rates.

Works like a charm. The last readout came as I was passing a vehicle camped out in the #1 lane below the PSL, glad I had it.




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[Lift_to_suceed]

AL Priority makes their sensors and processors in Croatia and frequently tops the charts in parking sensor technology. The firmware is updatable from an iOS. Sold in the US as a parking sensor one “can” go to another European site, hack the firmware and this will build a laser jammer that works on all the guns.

The problem is that quite a few guns can detect a “Jam to Gun” and it is a wiser strategy doing a “Jam to Kill.” Set the system to alert and interfere for 3-4 seconds, knock the speed off, and then the system goes into standby. From the end user perspective the gun will generate a speed readout only after the system goes into standby thus making it difficult for the officer to determine if he’s being unstable with the gun or just having a hard time getting a return. Glossy, clean, black cars are fantastic at scattering the IR beam away from the guns sensor so officers tend to shoot at head lights or license plates, exactly where you put the sensors.

I usually drive speeds safe for conditions and also embrace “engineered speeds” in areas sophisticated enough to establish them. Although infrequent, I sometimes feel the PSL is complete BS. Why is the limit 80-85 in one state and 65 in another under similar settings of sparsely populated areas. It’s a nice insurance policy to “Hicktown USA” that throws a 45 in there hidden behind a tree and the other small towns that rely upon this tax to pay the bills, which subsequently screws up ones insurance rates.

Works like a charm. The last readout came as I was passing a vehicle camped out in the #1 lane below the PSL, glad I had it.




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Yeah i agree, nice to have for those out of no where slow zones. Especially for areas that are just made for getting tickets and revenues. Looks complicated, im sure it will take a while to figure out how they work pending on which brand i go with.

You were talking about AL priority sensors and how you can hack the firmware, is that something you have done or is it just a cheap way of going about building your own jammer?

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[BigCSS78]

I’m just curious how a laser jammer has anything to do with suspension???

 

[Lift_to_suceed]

I’m just curious how a laser jammer has anything to do with suspension???

Did I post this in a completely wrong area? Haha im using Tapatalk and its shit for selecting where to post

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[OPT PRIME]

I’m just curious how a laser jammer has anything to do with suspension???

Maybe he’s expecting some increased cornering speeds.


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[Ruger]

I have forgotten whether GEICO or Progressive uses this technique, but when your auto insurance is up for renewal they give you a call. The first question is, "Do you own a CB radio?" It doesn't matter how you answer that question because they don't care. They ask you that simply to disarm you for the second question: "Do you own a radar detector?" No matter how you answer the conversation will continue without incident. But if you answered that you do own a radar detector you will get a notice in the mail canceling your insurance and no explanation will be offered. I presume it's the same if you own a radar jammer.

 

[Lift_to_suceed]

I have forgotten whether GEICO or Progressive uses this technique, but when your auto insurance is up for renewal they give you a call. The first question is, "Do you own a CB radio?" It doesn't matter how you answer that question because they don't care. They ask you that simply to disarm you for the second question: "Do you own a radar detector?" No matter how you answer the conversation will continue without incident. But if you answered that you do own a radar detector you will get a notice in the mail canceling your insurance and no explanation will be offered. I presume it's the same if you own a radar jammer.

Wow, what a joke. Nothing like that in Canada

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[tmd11111]

I have forgotten whether GEICO or Progressive uses this technique, but when your auto insurance is up for renewal they give you a call. The first question is, "Do you own a CB radio?" It doesn't matter how you answer that question because they don't care. They ask you that simply to disarm you for the second question: "Do you own a radar detector?" No matter how you answer the conversation will continue without incident. But if you answered that you do own a radar detector you will get a notice in the mail canceling your insurance and no explanation will be offered. I presume it's the same if you own a radar jammer.

I’ve had Geico for two years now and they have never once called when it’s time to renew.

 

[icecoldak]

ALP is the ONLY way to go for jammers!! They can jam any laser gun out there----DO NOT get stinger they are overpriced crap that Cannot jam everything!

 

[Lift_to_suceed]

ALP is the ONLY way to go for jammers!! They can jam any laser gun out there----DO NOT get stinger they are overpriced crap that Cannot jam everything!

Good to know [emoji106] you have experience with stinger i take it? Lol

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[icecoldak]

Good to know [emoji106] you have experience with stinger i take it? Lol

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Nope, but I have read plenty and seen test where Stinger cannot get the job done lol!! I have 3F/2R ALP head set up on my truck and Im good to go!