Gen 3 Final Power Numbers.....

[Johnkn]

I find it very curious that we’ve ...still... not seen final power numbers published by Ford given trucks are now being shipped. Sure we’ve seen reports that “Ford has confirmed power numbers” from 3rd parties, but nothing from Ford. Why? Ford HAS stated the G3 trucks will be powered by the HO flavor of the 3.5 Eco Boost, and Ford has stated that the new trucks will have higher compression and revised power curves. Is Ford still waiting for power certifications before publishing? If it’s still a carry-over 450/510 motor I would think that certs would have been a non-issue and happened by now. Given that, does it suggest higher ratings? It makes no sense to me..... but many things are making little sense to me with the G3’s. ??.


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[Antho]

https://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/models/f150-raptor/#3-5l-ecoboost-high-output-v6-engine

 

[Antho]

Engine Specifications​

Engine type	3.3L Ti-VCT V6	2.7L EcoBoost®V6	5.0L Ti-VCT V8	3.5L EcoBoost®V6	3.0L Power Stroke®V6	3.5L PowerBoost™Full Hybrid V6	High-Output 3.5L EcoBoost® V6
Engine Control System	Electronic	Electronic	Electronic	Electronic	Multicore PCM	Electronic	Electronic
Horsepower (hp@rpm)	290 @ 6500	325 @ 5000	400 @ 6000	400 @ 6000	250 @ 3250	-	450 @ 5850
Torque (lb.-ft. @RPM)	265 @ 4000	400 @ 3000	410 @ 4250	500 @ 3100	440 @ 1750	-	510 @ 3000
Total System Horsepower (hp@rpm)	-	-	-	-	-	430 @ 6000*	-
Total System Torque (lb.-ft. @RPM)	-	-	-	-	-	570 @ 3000*	-
Compression ratio	12:1	10:1	12:1	10.5:1	16:1	10.5:1	10.5:1
Bore (in.)	3.56	3.267	3.66	3.64	3.31	3.64	3.64
Stroke (in.)	3.41	3.267	3.65	3.41	3.54	3.41	3.41
Displacement (cu. in.)	204	165	307	213	183	213	213
Main bearings	4	4	5	4	4	4	4
Valve operation	Direct Acting Mechanical Bucket	Roller Finger Follower	Roller Finger Follower	Roller Finger Follower	Roller Finger Follower	Roller Finger Follower	Roller Finger Follower
Fuel delivery	Port Fuel Injection and Direct Injection	Port Fuel Injection and Direct Injection	Port Fuel Injection and Direct Injection	Port Fuel Injection and Direct Injection	Common Rail	Port Fuel Injection and Direct Injection	Port Fuel Injection and Direct Injection
Recommended fuel	Regular Unleaded or E85	Regular Unleaded	Regular Unleaded or E85	Regular Unleaded	Ultra Low Sulfer Diesel or up to B20 compatible	Regular Unleaded	Premium Unleaded
Oil Capacity (qt.)	6	6	7.75	6	6.5	6	6
Coolant Capacity (L)	12	14.3	12.5	13.5	13	14.5 high temp loop, 6.8 low temp loop	13
EPA-Estimated Fuel Economy Ratings - 4x2 (city/highway/combined mpg)	20/24/21 (Regular Gas)	20/26/22	17/24/20 (Regular Gas)	18/24/20	-	25/26/25	-
EPA-Estimated Fuel Economy Ratings - 4x4 (city/highway/combined mpg)	19/22/20 (Regular Gas)	19/24/21	16/22/19 (Regular Gas)	18/23/20**	20/27/23	24/24/24	-
Transmission type	Electronic 10-Speed Automatic	Electronic 10-Speed Automatic	Electronic 10-Speed Automatic	Electronic 10-Speed Automatic	Electronic 10-Speed Automatic	Electronic 10-Speed Automatic Modular Hybrid	Electronic 10-Speed Automatic
Engine block material	Aluminum	Compacted Graphite Iron	Aluminum	Aluminum	Compacted Graphite Iron	Aluminum	Aluminum
Cylinder head material	Aluminum	Aluminum	Aluminum	Aluminum	Aluminum	Aluminum	Aluminum
*Calculated via combined performance of the engine and electric motor with peak battery power. The calculations utilize SAE Net J1439 engine results and Ford electric motor dyno testing. Your results may vary.
**Excludes Tremor. Tremor numbers not available at time of publication.

 

[fts]

So, essentially the small battery in PB is adding 30 HP and 70 trq when it’s in full charge.

 

[Johnkn]

Thanks for the above, I’ve been going to Ford.com (bottom) Performance Vehicles, still nothing there. Thanks.

 

[jikjak]

It is really too bad that they didnt give us a small bump in hp/tq via a factory tune.

 

[Littlefx4]

It is really too bad that they didnt give us a small bump in hp/tq via a factory tune.

Some folks are gonna tune it anyway for more power so why bother with such a small bump? To stroke egos? If you sit tight, there May be an even bigger bump coming; hold off on this version if it’s not to your liking. Just my 2 pennies.

 

[jikjak]

It was just wishful thinking, Gen 2 sold and I was given a VIN and production week for the Gen3. Hopefully can get my hands on an R when they become available to order but I bet it will be hard to avoid an ADM on those.

A small bump would have been better than no bump at all and a nice bump could even negate the need for a tune. Unfortunately, based on some information in the Gen 3 performance sub-forum, tuning might be a problem, hopefully not though as the tune in the Gen 2 was nice to have.

 

[NWAnik]

Curious to know with the torque coming in at a lower RPM and new suspension if the 0-60 time is any better. Also think it is a little strange they wouldn’t be flexing that anyways.

 

[HighwaySentinel]

Interesting that they now recommend premium unleaded for the 3.5H.O.