Front and rear suspension upgrade

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After much reading around and research I believe I've finally get my setup narrowed down. Wanting something that rides nicely on the street but can take some good abuse offroad. Here's the current plan:

19+ OEM live valve front shocks
KHC front coil buckets
Geiser Gen 1 front springs on middle perch
OEM Gen 1 front spring perches
SDI E-CLIK live valve controller with harness
19+ OEM live valve rear shocks
KHC Gen 2 rear shock adapters
Deaver +3 rear springs
Camburg extended rear spring shackles
SVC Offroad adjustable rear bump stop system

As far as I know the Geisers on mid perch are the same as the stock springs on high perch, so I believe with the +3 Deavers and the Camburg extended shackles it should sit pretty well level. This would also give full control over the live valve shocks, as well as giving 15" of rear travel, and also that the 3.0 shocks supposedly last 5-6x as long as the stock 2.5's. Also from what I'm reading the SVC bump stop system also can be setup to give more capacity for towing/hauling, so I would be able to ditch the Roadmaster Active Suspension.

Originally I was looking at the Mikra Manufacturing front shock adapters, but they will not fit the live valve shocks. Should I maybe just get some 17-18 OEM 3.0's and not worry about doing the live valve shocks and controller? It's looking like a set of Gen 1 Fox 3.0 non-adjustable coilovers is around 2500, which would include everything for the front. The Mikra adapters, Geisers, and brand new 17-18 OEM 3.0's are about 2000, but I'm assuming you could get take-offs for the shocks for cheaper.

Suggestions? Comments?
 
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Jimmy at Allied is wrapping up putting '20 Live Valves, with KHC coil buckets, and the SDI setup on my truck now. He's a fabbing a rear shock adjustment in house.
Also putting Icon UCA's with the Delta Joint on as well.
Didn't do the rear springs or bumps at this time. Going to see how well the live valves and SDI setup compensate before I make any decisions on the rear.
I'll have it back next week, so I'll let you know initial thoughts.
 

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After much reading around and research I believe I've finally get my setup narrowed down. Wanting something that rides nicely on the street but can take some good abuse offroad. Here's the current plan:

19+ OEM live valve front shocks Have them revalved by SDI
KHC front coil buckets Go Camburg buckets, weld in only but a much cleaner look and fit way better.
Geiser Gen 1 front springs on middle perch This is possible but the spring is a bit short for the CO length. You're not really going to be in the correct parts of the spring unless you also use a lift collar. Just buy the Gen2 2.5" Geiser if you want geisers.
OEM Gen 1 front spring perches There aren't any "perch" settings on Gen2 Coilovers and Gen1 perches dont fit. (2.5" vs 3.0")
SDI E-CLIK live valve controller with harness Nice kit, the hardest part is mounting the control module somewhere flat under the hood.
19+ OEM live valve rear shocks Have them revalved by SDI
KHC Gen 2 rear shock adapters These are nice pieces of hardware, take your time with metal removal, better to take it off little by little to get a snug fit than have it sloppy.
Deaver +3 rear springs Go ahead and get the HDs, they dont ride bad and last longer with repeated offroad use
Camburg extended rear spring shackles Everyone who runs these offroad has frame contact with them. Go with any of the other vendors.
SVC Offroad adjustable rear bump stop system

As far as I know the Geisers on mid perch are the same as the stock springs on high perch, so I believe with the +3 Deavers and the Camburg extended shackles it should sit pretty well level. This would also give full control over the live valve shocks, as well as giving 15" of rear travel, and also that the 3.0 shocks supposedly last 5-6x as long as the stock 2.5's. Also from what I'm reading the SVC bump stop system also can be setup to give more capacity for towing/hauling, so I would be able to ditch the Roadmaster Active Suspension.

Originally I was looking at the Mikra Manufacturing front shock adapters, but they will not fit the live valve shocks. Should I maybe just get some 17-18 OEM 3.0's and not worry about doing the live valve shocks and controller? It's looking like a set of Gen 1 Fox 3.0 non-adjustable coilovers is around 2500, which would include everything for the front. The Mikra adapters, Geisers, and brand new 17-18 OEM 3.0's are about 2000, but I'm assuming you could get take-offs for the shocks for cheaper.

Suggestions? Comments?

You've got a good plan laid out! My edits in red are things i have some experience with.
 
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As far as I know the Geisers on mid perch are the same as the stock springs on high perch, so I believe with the +3 Deavers and the Camburg extended shackles it should sit pretty well level.

See now ive read the geisers at mid make the front level with oe rear. So this is what’s confusing me on which deavers to get. Id like a level or slightly forward rake. Hmm LOL
 

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See now ive read the geisers at mid make the front level with oe rear. So this is what’s confusing me on which deavers to get. Id like a level or slightly forward rake. Hmm LOL
This is Geisers on bottom perch, +3 Deavers, and Camburg drop shackles for reference.
 

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well based on my 10 years here on the forum and have seen every problem imaginable, i should probably give a word of advice. 2010 and 2011 trucks can sit at top perch height on the front generally with no issues. when ford introduced the torsen front diff in 2012 models, there were lots of people having problems with top perch height. the torsen didnt like the extreme angle the axleshaft was at. caused binding, grinding and breaking of various parts. usually axles or 4wd issues.
 
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