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Discussion in 'Ford Raptor Suspension Discussion and Modification' started by Socalbeachbum, Aug 7, 2020.

  1. NEOGARAGE

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    I just saw this tag. Sorry about that, but either set up will be fantastic. The biggest difference between the two is mainly the coating (icon coats each leaf before assembly so it's less prone to rusting) and also the Icons are basically a 3 in 1 leaf pack, so having that adjustability is nice if your uses change down the road and it saves you from spending about $1400 on springs again. Icons are also a touch softer spring rate over deavers.

    $1700 for parts and labor is actually very good.

    Eibachs are about $225 retail, and Icons or deavers are around $1400 retail. We would normally charge about $500 for the install and another $80 or so for alignment if that gives you an idea of costs, obviously this is before any discounts or sales.

    We have Eibach's in stock, but are waiting on Icons again.

    We also offer 10% off to forum members sitewide, use code FRF10 at checkout :)

    https://www.neo-garage.com/collections/2017-ford-raptor/2017-Raptor-Suspension
     
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    I bought an IDS tool for myself from obdii365 with software.

    So far so good.


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    I went to my local Ford dealer today to have the ride height recalibration done and they looked at me like I was crazy so I read what a couple people said and the tech came and showed me what was happening. He showed me on his laptop that he would click "Ride height calibration" and it would tell him to put it in run and then turn it off and then it said done but then it would say "calibration failed" after it said done. So he didn't charge me because he didn't know. I am going back tomorrow for an alignment and he is going to read more into it tonight too but just wondering if there is any way to explain it besides what has already been covered. He didn't know what the VDM was but now I gather it is the Vehicle Dynamics Module which I am guessing is a part of the trucks computer systems.

    Help.

    Edit, I hooked up my Forscan to my truck and got a -9mm on both front sides which makes sense because the tech was not doing the process on level ground, the front was on higher ground. I feel like I would rather have it read a -9mm than a 39mm so I am going to leave it there, plus he did it for free so its all good. Here are my FORscan results.

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  4. TravisHTX

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    Not sure if this is the case, but FordTechOne mentioned that the calibration may not be available or run if there are any DTCs. But if you had eibachs put on and your reading -9mm, then the recalibration the tech ran did do something. and if the front of the truck was up higher than the rear, then -9mm would make sense on level ground, you definitely want to run it on level ground. When I park my truck in the driveway, which has a little bit of a slope, it does change the height by about 5 mm.

    Sounds like he did find the right service procedure. The tech that did it on my truck did say that the service procedure was not listed under the VDM, I did not ask him where though. I would maybe clear the DTCs and try again unless the tech as a better idea of the cause... Although mine did have something about communication with the ABS system and still ran OK. But I would agree, being off by 9mm is a lot better than 39mm.
     
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    -9mm after installing Eibachs? I see it, but that’s odd. You basically lost height by adding springs that means. You were on level ground as well I imagine, when you hooked up Forscan?

    You did your own springs? I’d ask how the ride feels to you, but it doesn’t sound like you have had time to really put a lot of miles on your truck before doing the springs to know or feel a small difference. Even folks who were at 30mm+/-added ride height after springs and had the calibration only felt a subtle change. But a change at the bottom that restored the trucks originally quality ride.

    Can you post any profile pics of the truck on level ground? I’m just curious to see how it’s sitting. Level I am guessing or you would have mentioned something. A little baffling.
     
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    No it was -9mm after the recalibration was done. I don't have a before or after spring install reading from my forscan, I have only ever hooked my forscan up to it after I installed the springs/recalibration The recalibration was done on uneven ground and the tech didn't charge me because he wasn't sure if it worked or not because it said recalibration failed at the end. So when I got home I put my forscan on it and it read -9mm. I am not worried about ~3/8" difference, that's better than +39 and I feel like it would be better having a negative value. If I go back I might ask him to redo it on level ground and then check at home what the VDM reads on my forscan.
     
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    Ah ok I hear ya. True if he wasn’t on level ground and the rear was higher, that itself could put it at that negative value you have. If you hook up forscan and literally push up on the trucks bumper or door frame with the Dior open you will see values change 10mm give it take with little effort. So your right in the ballpark as you said and can always have it redone if you want.
     
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    When I had to go back up to the dealer to have them try again, I just took my laptop with me and checked it right in their lot before I moved it an inch.
     
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    where in Florida are you located?
    looking to get mine done this week
     

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