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Discussion in 'Off-Roading Your Raptor' started by SS308, Aug 12, 2019.

  1. Jonny V

    Jonny V FRF Supporting Member Supporting Member

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    Yes, yes, and yes....this truck is my weekend truck. Regular work truck is a ‘92 F-150. The Raptor is for camping, bombing down logging roads, and my dream trip (Baja).

    My plan right now is maintenance first, brakes, stock shock rebuild, and the small upgrades like the Saudi cooler I just installed.

    Was thinking to do the rear first, starting with a kit like the RST-16 or SVC adjustable kit. Then upgrade the rear springs, followed by front UCA’s, then a shock upgrade.

    I figure it’ll take me about two years to get all this done. If there’s a problem with my plan, I’d like to know it. Thanks for the help!
     
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    I would honestly skip the rear rack ( like the rst 16) for the time being. If the rear shocks need upgrading, grab some take off gen2 rear shocks on the cheap and focus what you have to spend right now. I can't comment on who or what I am referring to, but next year some new, rad, super functional options are going to come on the market. You might want to wait till next year to make a rear suspension decision.

    I would also skip the shock rebuild on the front. If you need the rebuild because of leaking, okay, but if the shocks are workable for now, save the coin and put it towards the actual shock upgrade.

    I'd maybe do a gusset kit on the stock knuckles, do the leaf springs and do the upper arms.

    The rst-16 is realistically a pair of upper shock mounts. RPG does offer a bump stop kit, but its a different product. I prefer the SVC option. I've had both of them.

    For you, I like the SVC option more. Here's why: You're going to start modifying the truck to go on your dream trip. You'll probably have leaf springs, upper arms, upgraded shocks and bump stops before you go.

    Then you'll go on the trip. You'll fall in love with it. Your next step for modifications will most likely be doing a bed rack with longer shocks, just like most people. ( for a bunch of reasons).

    Once you change the shock mounts and shocks, with the svc option, you'll be able to raise it to the "high setting" when heading on trips like going to Baja. It'll get you an extra inch of up travel ( raptors can use every little bit of help on the rear suspension that they can get because leaf springs can rarely keep up with upgraded front suspensions).

    You're not really able to get that out of the RPG kit. Yes, you can adjust between off-road and tow, and you can change out the bump cans, etc. With the svc kit, you don't have to do any of that. you remove 3 bolts, slide the bump can mount up or down, then put the bolts back in.

    I also like the idea of leaving the bump frames in the middle position for things like logging roads around home, as you really probably don't want to or need to give the truck the extra travel, because it isn't worth the extra wear and tear on the springs and shocks. BUT, when heading to baja, or some other desert run, you can set them in the highest position and get your extra up-travel back for when you need/want it.

    I also would not hesitate to seriously look at icon. Coilover and shock kit really works well. On the Exo runs, all of the exo staff trucks that are gen1 or gen2 are running icon setups. They run the show on the trips and they're keeping up with all of the attendees linked, $300K prerunners.

    Plus, not for nothing, Tom Wayes is one of Icon's Ultra4 Drivers. He rolls to Baja in an icon-equipped gen1. After seeing what he can do in it, in person. Yeah. shit works.
     
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  3. Jonny V

    Jonny V FRF Supporting Member Supporting Member

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    Cool thanks. There are so many options for what to do that it’s hard to figure out what you SHOULD do...

    My shocks are ok. No leaks. A little bouncy in the back on speed bumps and such. My rig has 76k miles on it.

    I like the SVC kit. I want to do a frame strengthening kit. Just have to figure which one.
     
  4. zombiekiller

    zombiekiller FRF Addict

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    Lob a call to SVC. Jeff will get you all squared away and answer any questions you might have. And after seeing what he's put his gen1 through, if you run their kit, you'll do just fine. I think he's on his 4th or 5th motor, and only his second suspension rebuild. ( heims and wear parts getting replaced, shocks rebuilt, etc)
     
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    But then you say you put in the middle possition for everyday driving on logging roads??
    The svc "stock off-road" mode is a complete marketing joke. You either want full travel (svc in all the way up and rpg w/ small pads) or tow (svc all the way down and rpg long pads)

    Either way both kits are good. Rpg gets the nod from me because its easier and quicker to swap to tow (although that doesn't happen very often so its kinda mute) Rpg is powder coated black not grey (the grey looks "old" and dirty) and the Rpg design (looks to me) to be a beefier design.


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  6. zombiekiller

    zombiekiller FRF Addict

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    svc's isnt power coated gray. I pull my suspension apart every now and then to check for cracks. I repaint everything with steel-it. Steel-it is gray.

    And no, it is not a marketing joke. On a logging road, or any other terrain that isn't rife with holes and big bumps, I dont want ALL of the travel. It isnt necessary and the truck will stay mostly flat. In scenarios like this, I actually make a few turns to the tubes to stiffen up the suspension, much in the same way that I dial ALL of the rebound if I plan to spend a day hucking the truck off of jumps.


    furthermore, I have never once put ANY bump frame into a "towing" position. yeah, you can do it, but i dont enjoy riding the bump stops, ever.

    I had the RPG kit on a gen1, and had it on this truck. I like the svc more, for a ton of different reasons. I'm not trying to convince you to switch. to each their own. I do think the SVC kit is more functional than the RPG kit. I also think it is more thought out.
     
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  7. Jonny V

    Jonny V FRF Supporting Member Supporting Member

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    Checked my tires yesterday during downtime at the track and found that I have a bit of unusual wear on the fronts. Looks like what they call “cupping”...

    I called and got an appointment Tuesday for a tire rotation/balance/alignment, but I have a feeling it could be the shocks. They have 76,000 on them now. I’m hoping to be able to get them off the truck and down to Fox in the middle of next month when I don’t have so much going on.
     
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    So are the below posted Sumo Springs poor choice.

    I want to add Deaver's in the rear and either Eibachs or Geisers up front and wish to off-road and get setup for overlanding.

    Might be pulling a light built for off-road camper set up for overlanding but the truck would still be loaded with as much as I could get away with weight wise.

    I don't know if I really need the higher quality bump stops, not because of cost, but because I don't really see me doing any high speed desert or Baja runs. Maybe a little high speed dirt runs.

    SSR-117-47 | SumoSprings Rear for Ford F-150
    $249.99

    • Sold as a pair (left and right)
    • Maintenance-free
    • Enhances load carrying ability
    • 1500 (lb) Capacity at 50% Compression
    • Reduces and stabilizes sway
    • Improves overall driver control and ride comfort
    • Compress up to 80% of original height with full memory rebound
    • One-piece unit attached on one side used as a replacement/upgrade to factory bump stops
    • progressive spring rate with superior damping properties
    • Made from patented micro-cellular urethane
    • Will not leak or rupture
    • Never load any vehicle beyond the manufacturer’s GVWR
    Any input appreciated, thanks.
     
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    I'm not certain those were intended for use in a Raptor, it has a lot more axle travel than a standard f150. SDHQ does make a set of long travel bags specifically for the Raptor. If your talking about packing heavy for overlanding HD deavers seem like the obvious choice, air bumps are a good idea if your going to be heavy, but for your use i would choose the bags over the bumps.
     
  10. sixshooter_45

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    They have ones that are rated for a 1,000 lbs specific to the Raptor.


    SSR-116-40 | SumoSprings Rear for Ford F-150, Ford F-150 Raptor
    $239.99

    • Sold as a pair (left and right)
    • Maintenance-free
    • Enhances load carrying ability
    • 1000 (lb) Capacity at 50% Compression
    • Reduces and stabilizes sway
    • Improves overall driver control and ride comfort
    • Compress up to 80% of original height with full memory rebound
    • One-piece unit attached on one side used as a replacement/upgrade to factory bump stops
    • progressive spring rate with superior damping properties
    • Made from patented micro-cellular urethane
    • Will not leak or rupture
    • Never load any vehicle beyond the manufacturer’s GVWR
    So I figured the 1,500 would work also.

    I am leaning towards the HD Deaver's.
     

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