Belt shift on tires

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  1. fillmoreranger

    fillmoreranger Full Access Member

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    My 2011 has 14k miles...

    After the 2nd tire rotation, I noticed a wobble. Took the truck to the dealer. They checked everything out and the truck was ok. They rotated the tires again (3rd rotation) and the wobble was gone. They told me the tires were cupping and that the tires had belt shift.

    Although the tires are out of warranty (12 months/12,000 miles), they advised me to contact Ford at an 800 number to see if they could help me (good will). I will call them tomorrow.

    Has anyone else experienced this?
     
  2. blood

    blood FRF Supporting Member Supporting Member

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    they should be rotating front to back per side not crossing.if it went away its not a belt shift its just a cupping issue and will work its self out in a hundred or so miles.you either have a alignment issue or need to rotate more often.
     
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    KaiserM715 Kaiser Söze Staff Member

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    The owner's manual recommends crossing and that is the only other recommendation I have seen, unless you have bias or unidirectional tires.
     
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    Except, the experts aside, Crossing truck radials in my experience with several different brands CAUSES belt shifting. And more tire sales. The sooner shifted side to side the sooner you are in the shop looking for an alignment, and further down the road balancing and witch doctors to cure the pulling and wobbling. Only new tires help....... until the shop helps you out and gives you a free X rotation. Then its back to step #1.
    Good luck...
     
  5. jdowens1

    jdowens1 Ford Senior Master Technician

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    I'm no tire expert but this sound Wack! Ha I have always moved my back tires to front then cross the front tires when putting them in the rear. I rotate this way to allow all four tires to wear evenly. If you only go front to back and have an alignment issue it is easier to get the tire back to normal when they cross causing the weAr on the other side. I've never had a belt shifting issue. Maybe I'm just lucky. Has anyone Else noticed there tires wearing out prematurely due to this?
     
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    Madcowranch Genetically Modified

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    From tirerack.com...

    Four (4) Tire Rotation

    What tire rotation pattern should be followed? The Tire & Rim Association has identified three traditional rotation patterns covering most vehicles (equipped with non-directional tires and wheels which are the same size and offset). The first being the "Rearward Cross" (Figure A); the second being the "Forward Cross" (Figure C); and the third is the "X-Pattern" (Figure B). The X-Pattern can be used as an alternative to A or C.

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    I seem to get longer life out of my tires (especially mud tires) crossing sides with my rotation.

    On a side note, did anyone else completely destroy their BFG's at TRR? Mine are chunked like a mother fucker.
     
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    WSI Supporting Vendor Supporting Vendor Supporting Member

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    no! Stay off the skinny!
     
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    What exactly is belt shift? I have an Isuzu cab over work truck and the front drivers tire has about 3 bumps on it and the inside edge is wearing. the passanger side is fine. The tire guy told me i need an aligment. Wouldnt but tires be wearing if that was the case?
     
  9. Maxx2893

    Maxx2893 Rock and Roll Offroad Supporting Member

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    Not necessarily. The driver side tire may be toed out a bit making it drive on the inside edge.
     
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    Hockster My 45ft Bluewater Party Supporting Member

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    Belt shifting is when the belt that is around the tire to help prevent tire punctures(under the tread) twists and causes the tire to go out of round. It will have funny bumps. When you rub your hand around the tire you will feel them. From what you have said it sounds like your left tire has the problem... If your toe is out both sides will have the same wear.
     

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