2021 Raptor Is a Total BUST!!

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Welcome. If you own a gen 2 in good shape, there's no reason to pay ADM to get a gen 3 unless you're addicted to the latest and greatest and have the money to spare. Once you can get a gen 3 for under MSRP, I think it would be worth the move. The rear suspension is worth it all by itself.

agree. Just sold my rubicon to vroom and picked up a one year lease for an accord. This way I can pull the trigger when ready - dealer by my house said they will sell them at MRSP as soon as order banks are open, good friend of the family and he runs the used dealer side so hopeful this comes true. If it was just some employee there I would take that advice with a grain of salt.