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Yes, I'm one of those guys that is on the emotional roller coaster over the loss of the Torsen front diff. And also the loss of a heated steering wheel. And the LEDs on the A/C knobs. BUT, the Gen3 has a waaaay better interior and suspension than the Gen 2, outside of that Torsen diff and...

F-250 Tremor is possibly my answer. Have an order in for a 2023 F-250 King Ranch with Tremor, but it's been in place since order banks opened in October and doesn't look to be coming anytime soon. The '23 Raptor order showed up so I pulled the trigger and took it. Going to look into adding...

It was important to me to know that the Raptor has all of the features of the Tremor plus the extra 50HP, 37 inch tires, and the five link rear suspension for the price premium. Kind of a major bummer to learn the Tremor has the differential I thought I was getting (and it can tow more).

If the Tremor or the older Raptor with Torsen has the exact same traction control management system, then I'm kinda pissed again.

For further demonstration of what I mentioned with the Land Rovers, here's a video showing a Range Rover Evoque with wheels in the air still getting traction to the wheel on the ground. The Range Rover Evoque is the silver car, the Discovery Sport is the white one. A Torsen differential would...

I went through the umpteen stages of grief reading this thread. I had a deposit on a 2023 Raptor and the truck finally arrived and is on its way to me from the dealer right now as we speak. I had agonized over a F-150 or F-250 Tremor vs a Raptor and ultimately went with the Raptor because I...