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    Shelter Green 37PP YouTube Video

    Not my first choice, but at least it’s a color. Much better than black, white, or silver.
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    Domed Carbon Interior Overlays by Tufskinz.

    You’re likely accustomed to a more common 2x2 weave. The raptor seems to use the 5HS weave. https://www.elevatedmaterials.com/carbon-fiber-weaves-what-they-are-and-why-to-use-them/
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    The long term impact of ADM

    I don’t know if it’s going to be 5 months, but certainly not too far from then. ADMs will be gone once people realize that we are in a recession. You’re already seeing ADM being reduced or going away completely on many high demand cars. Especially outside of LA or other silly areas.
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    The long term impact of ADM

    I literally ignore people that misuse the word literally. It just shows that you literally can’t trust what they are saying.
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    2023 Order Banks Still Open?

    Is this correct? Are they only making 5k or so Raptors? I’ve been wondering what production numbers are, where did you find this?
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    Rolled my 3 day old truck

    That doesn’t work when you are at fault. You can only go after DV against a third party.
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    Rolled my 3 day old truck

    Just as an example, when an uninsured idiot rear ended my wife, we couldn’t collect DV from our insurance company. They fixed the car, and that was that. When an underinsured idiot hit my car, my insurance company fixed my car, and included the DV claim as part of their “bill” to the...
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    Rolled my 3 day old truck

    That’s not how any DV claim I’ve done works. You can’t go after your own insurance company for DV. They’re not paying if you’re at fault. You file a DV claim against the other guys insurance company if they are at fault. That said, as soon as a body shop gets this, they’ll provide an estimate...
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    22 Atlas bluey just came in!

    Raptor colors are listed on page 44 in the pdf. https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/threads/2023-f-150-order-guide-w-raptor-raptor-r-released.11725/
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    22 Atlas bluey just came in!

    At this point, you'll probably be ordering a '23, and according to the order guides, you won't have the option of Atlas Blue.
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    Changing From 89 to 93 Octane

    Go to the pump, insert credit card, choose 93, put nozzle into fuel filler. Hold handle until full.
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    Ford CEO Farley Says Dealers Who Gouge Could Get Fewer Vehicles

    I’ll believe it when I see it stop. I’ve sent my letters to Ford on the matter; explaining that if I preorder a vehicle I damn well better be in an orderly line and receive it roughly in the order I placed it. I also pointed out that their allocation process forces me to choose between getting...
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    July 18 Reveal.

    Realistically, that’s all it’ll be. An engine option, with possibly a little interior trim upgrades. I can’t see the suspension changing beyond simply spring/damper tuning.
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    MSRP Guesses?

    I’m going for a 15k premium over a comparable Raptor.
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    ADM and destroyed dealer relationships?

    Capitalism doesn’t require you to only think of yourself. It also doesn’t require you to think of others. That’s the wonderful thing about it. Your reasons are yours. As an example, if someone is uncomfortable with a deal, I’m unlikely to get involved in it. I chose to make deals that work for...
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    ADM and destroyed dealer relationships?

    Call me a capitalist, but I’d rather the money go to the manufacturer. There’s more value there, and I can invest in that manufacturer through stock purchases to pad my bottom line too. I’ve heard the stories from friends with Teslas. There’s definitely a downside to having no dealer network...
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    ADM and destroyed dealer relationships?

    As I said before though, I have no problem with dealers charging ADM. I simply will not purchase anything from them. My issue is that Ford has their antiquated allocation model. They need to fix that if they want to succeed in the EV world. Like it or not, Tesla has set the bar for EVs, and...
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    ADM and destroyed dealer relationships?

    They are going beyond the normal transactional relationship that one would have with a dealer, and instead getting greedy. If they want a windfall instead of a customer, they will get neither from me.
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    ADM and destroyed dealer relationships?

    Don’t even get me started in Government subsidies. Of any type.
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    ADM and destroyed dealer relationships?

    It sounds like you did teach them well. I hope to get my girls there one day.
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    ADM and destroyed dealer relationships?

    I have no issue with dealers charging ADM. I take issue with Fords allocation model which requires me to choose between ADM or not getting a truck. I never said ADM should end, but I do believe that it ruins customer perception of the dealer, and eventually of the brand as a whole. It’s very...
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    ADM and destroyed dealer relationships?

    I always related it to cheeseburgers or tacos when I was a teenager. I’m trying to teach my kids the same concept though; a small Lego set takes them doing dishes for two weeks. It’s a good way to look at things in my opinion.
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    ADM and destroyed dealer relationships?

    That’s good to hear, that the Gen 2 is that comparable. I do like the tech, interior, and overall looks of the Gen 3 better. If Gen 2 prices weren’t so close to Gen3 I’d probably get one. With the used market as crazy as it is right now though, I just can’t justify the Gen 2.
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    ADM and destroyed dealer relationships?

    Not really. Capitalism doesn’t require the dealer allocation model. Capitalism would be me being able to place an order from any Ford dealer of my choosing, and get my truck in roughly the order that it was placed. This allocation model is closer to crony capitalism, although that implies...
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    ADM and destroyed dealer relationships?

    I’m a bit bearish right now. It feels a lot like 2008. I’m assuming that we have a market crash similar to 08-09, and that will get rid of ADM. we also need the chip shortage to resolve itself, but I’m betting that happens in 6-8 months. This is one thing (the market) that I would love to be...

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