To clarify: an ATB has no-slip (unless in a zero axle load situation, where it behaves not unlike an open differential unless it's a Wavetrac) - not limited-slip - which is why it isn't really in the same group as LSD which are usually clutch or viscous type. ATBs also don't act on the same...
It isn't an LSD. It's an ATB differential. You also called it a lunchbox locker, which is a completely different thing from an LSD or an ATB.
You didn't help anything by spreading garbage misinformation into the thread. I'll take my 12 years experience in many forms of racing over your...
Right... oddly enough it was members on this forum that got that same manufacturer to make a front diff unit for Gen1 with high praise and interest. It makes sense to me now why you like the open rear diff so much, all around performance just isn't your thing.
The continued misuse of "LSD" to describe a Torsen differential confirms your ignorance. Torsens are helical differentials, ATBs, not LSDs. They have no slip, they bind internally and bias torque.
I'm not going to claim to be able to tout off which differential each manufacturer wants to use...
Because your referenced mass-produced AWD vehicles also have open front differentials, which suck. There isn't a centering feel, you literally point and it goes, it doesn't fight you with understeer the way a locked differential does, it also doesn't torque steer haphazardly the way an open...
Maybe if I incorrectly throw in the word yaw and claim that it's just physics even though I don't actually understand the way a helical differential works I'll 'win' this argument of preference. Dumb shit.
Because open diffs aren't fucking good, dude. The diff biases torque to the wheel with more grip, that's how they work and why helical differentials are called torque-biasing (TORque SENsing, can't imagine where they got the name) differentials.
Caught this the other day.
Nothing to worry about with a Torsen differential, it's an all-gear design and these have been used in tons of applications over the last 35 years.
Worth the $500.
*Unless you're going to complain about the added traction being torque steer (which it isn't) and act like an open differential...
You miss the point: I’d rather no replies/no interest than replies from people who are ignorant to the product and it’s potential applications whose focus it seems is to convince me the product doesn’t work in ways it actually does.
Seems like the focus is more on convincing me why it’s a bad idea. Not sure what I expected from this community.
Probably not your intention to again misrepresent the product, but a lunchbox locker is a full-locking insert that replaces the spider gears in an open differential. This is not a...
Thanks for your input, frustrating but I also have doubts that Jaz13 could go into detail about the advantages of a locking differential, let alone an e-locker that deactivates above 20mph, over any ATB differential or LSD mentioned in this thread.
All I see they have so far is Dana30 on...
The US Military didn't put helical differentials in the Humvee because they were street racing them. Helical differentials have a downside, typically overcome with engaging the brakes to dig out of zero axle-load conditions. The Wavetrac has a leg-up here in that it overcomes this.
The goal of...
I installed the Rokblokz on mine and have no complaints other than wishing they included black hardware for the rear installation that I had to source myself.
The locking diff turns off at 20mph and does not work in 2WD without splicing a module into the wiring harness. Replacing the differential works at any speed, in any condition, all the time.
Thank you for your input.
I have a 2018 802A with the Torsen. Regardless, this thread is about gauging interest on a REAR application for a Wavetrac differential... of which there seems to be none.
A Torsen is designed to bias torque to the wheels that can accept the traction, which is why they aren't a true 'limited...
I think you're confusing torque steer with traction. Drive an open differential FWD car pointed straight and mash the throttle, fighting to stay in the lane is a result of torque steer. It's a definitely a different feeling if you're not used to it.
Dead Thread Revival if anybody is looking for a drivable differential that performs better than an Eaton TrueTrac:
http://www.fordraptorforum.com/f260/wavetrac-differential-gauging-interest-59660/
I assume you opted out of the front Torsen differential then. Good thing about the Wavetrac is when it’s torque biasing (under zero load conditions) it’s helping to limit the use of electronic driving aids. We obviously see this more in road race / track day situations, but it would have...
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