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I agree completely. The Gen 2's are scaled down "softer" versions of the Gen 1's. Aluminum body, Smaller more efficient motor, less emission footprint, 10 speed tranny, smoother ride, etc. They sold out on the muscle truck. It is still a pretty good truck imo. Great for what i use it for, a...

Agreed! if they offered both they would never sell the v6.

Honestly, I put so much $$ into the 13 that when I went to sell it there was no way to get close to what i had in it. The Raptor was the travel truck for the family. We took it everywhere. Wife said its time for a new one when i snapped the belt on the supercharger on a short trip. She only...

I would have to agree with the majority on this. My 13 is at 93k miles and has tons of mods. Just got a new HD tranny(agree this is the weak point for the truck) and had the supercharger serviced(leak). But that is it for 7 years other than the thousands in Mods. My 18 Gen 2 is just a...

Been a while since i posted, but that is nice looking Gen 1. I would flip the tires, i just like the black look. As is evidenced by my Gen 1 and Gen 2. Welcome to the club!

Sexy, You are right. unless we get some before and after this will continue to be people's opinions with no way to substantiate any of them. Really sucks. I just want to know the truth. The folks i use agree with you. They say it absolutely makes a difference.

blk91gt, Interesting observations. There are a lot of opinions about what makes gains and what doesnt, but the bottom line is someone has to actually do the comparison. Advice is free from everyone, so take it for what it is. The whole he said, or my guy said, or i said really proves nothing...

Ok. So in your opinion, the "upgraded" downpipe/exhaust is giving no extra power? Just different sound? Or is there some other value in doing the downpipe/exhaust? It obviously worked really well in 13, as i have the gains to show it, but the turbo situation is different? It's not about...

Interesting. So then there is lees flow in the supposed "upgraded" exhaust? Does that mean less power in theory?

That makes sense to me. When examining the oem vs the new setup(mine was kooks downpipe and magnaflow exhaust) there was a noticeable difference in the size of everything.

On the other thread that was Fordza'a point. The new technology on the Gen 2's meant the upgrades really were ineffective. Except of course the tune. My mechanic, who is very up to date and in the know told me there still are quite a bit of cumulative gains to be had for sure. Especially...

So we have been through this on other threads as it relates to bolt ons and more power, hp, etc. There is a lot of conflicting information honestly. i think Fordza knows his shit, and his logic makes some sense to me. But he does come off arrogant and rubs people the wrong way which hurts his...

Well we certainly agree on the lefttards, democraps, and libtards! They can all go to Cali and secede for all i care with all the other whack job liberals. So to your point he does have some experience with the new eco boost. And still stands by the intercooler and exhaust debate. His...

That is kind of my point actually. I am not an expert, never claimed to be. I am smart guy who is very successful in business and when i do something, i do it to the fullest. This guy i use knows his shit. Came highly recommended from multiple very credible sources. I didnt buy one thing...

I wish i had done it like i did my 13 so i could just post the results. The inter cooler absolutely has to increase it. Especially in hot areas like here. Someone on here must have some dyno info with before and afters.

This is a waste of time. You have your opinion, and your set in it. I have plenty of tangible proof. My 13 dyno numbers before and after. I should have done this one as well to shut up guys like you who get on here and act like your an authority. What is it that you do for a living? Do...

We are talking about cumulative gains and have gone through this already. No one is selling anyone anything. My mech works on cars all day every day. He has 30 years in the business. Street and race cars. He did all the work on my 13. Sc, exhaust, headers, etc. My current 13 gets 560rwhp...

Old and uneducated is a bad combo. Keep making shit up and giving people bad advice that isnt' true.

You old school guys are so funny. The bolt ons do add something and you show your ignorance when saying they don't. To what degree is arguable, but there are significant gains when it is all added up. This thread may never actually die.

No brainer here. Take advice above. Cars are the worst investment out there. Depreciation is brutal. Get yourself a financial planner or get a buddy who knows how to invest. Too bad you didnt ask this 1.5 years ago, as you are near the end(or at least on the tail end of) of one of the...

I vote no for sure. Check out diamond back covers. Superior quality and look very aggressive. I love mine.

setxws6, There are a lot of opinions on aftermarket parts like exhuast, CAI, adapters, etc. Fordza thinks the tune is the only advantage. It is the most significant, but do not let one guys opinion sway you. There are a lot of us on here that know there are gains to be had from add ons. Do...

I concur. Starts easier and idles much smoother after switch.

It really has more to do with the relationship with your dealer. It is totally up to them.

I know it was you now because of the large silver skid plate. It's very distinctive. What bumper is that? Custom?