GEN 2 Need Transmission rebuild/replace. Recommendations on best route?

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FrankL1

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Good morning everyone (CA time),

A bit if a fiasco, I purchased a used 2017 Ford Raptor out of Texas and delivered to me to California.
Within 15 minutes of ownership, smelled like burning oil and ofd knock. Told the sales rep of issue(unfortunately it’s a As-IS sale. I know).
I let him know that I was aware of them not extending a warranty but this literally happened as I got it from the transport co(whom they provided). Told him I’d take it to a local shop to get it looked at, sales rep said let him know to see what they can do. Shop did advise that there was a oil leak and odd knocking sound.
Fast forward to the 10th day of ownership -
while driving on the freeway I heard a large pop or two and temps went up and smoke everywhere. Took it to Ford that day(I purchased a extended warranty through my CU), stated that large leak in transmission, would have to rebuild or replace.
Well warranty isnt covering it due to “oversized tires” were the cause of transmission failure.
From said trans failure caused torque converter to heat up and pump to fail. Can’t recall if it’s the internal or external along with half shaft boots to tear
It sat at Ford from 11/20/20 through 1/7-8/21 awaiting response. I took it out because Ford was going to charge storage fees until they started working on it.
Told them I was doing so to see if I got any traction from the extended warranty or dealership and if it worked out, I’d take it back.

So after my little backstory, my question would be what would be the best option to move forward. Rebuild or replace?
Ford took the trans completely apart and sitting so in my garage the same way. I would believe all internal parts are i the boxes.
If replacing, one dealership is at $4,200.00 for a new transmission plus labor/programming, which from all other dealerships isn’t a bad price(transmission itself).

Is a rebuilt worth it? Being that it’s all taken apart and a new shop would have to put their hands where Ford left off?

Would a used transmission be a candidate?
If so, does it strictly have to be a 17 or 18-20 work from a wrecked Raptor? If other years work, what would one need to look for in specific, or as long as it comes off a Raptor of any second gen it should be plug and play? (Of course, programming and making sure torque converter/etc is all good oder).


And anything else to look at or be preventative since the truck sat so long the way it is? Im new to the Raptor, and Ford in general. So my Ford knowledge is minimal, especially in this area. The 10 days of actually owning it were great and want to continue to drive it, but +$13,000.00 at Ford seems way off the path.
I’m sorry for the lengthy and all over the place post. And hopefully I placed this thread in the correct location, I’m new to forums.


I appreciate all and any input.
Thank you in advance.




Best,
Frank
 

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Hope you didn’t pay very much for it....how many miles are on it? If the truck is gonna be a lost cause from a factory warranty standpoint (which sounds like it is) is do a rebuild- I’d see what reputable shops around may charge & if they may be familiar w/ the 10R80

rebuild kits vary in price depending what they come with- listed @ $2579 w/ a torque converter & new clutches https://suncoastdiesel.com/i-304985...-10r80-rebuild-kit-with-torque-converter.html
 
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Hope you didn’t pay very much for it....how many miles are on it? If the truck is gonna be a lost cause from a factory warranty standpoint (which sounds like it is) is do a rebuild- I’d see what reputable shops around may charge & if they may be familiar w/ the 10R80

rebuild kits vary in price depending what they come with- listed @ $2579 w/ a torque converter & new clutches https://suncoastdiesel.com/i-304985...-10r80-rebuild-kit-with-torque-converter.html


Thank you for your response Badgertits. Well sell price wasn’t that bad, but add tax/transportation and it’s gone up. It currently holds 63,500. Give or take a few miles.
I’ll definitely look into a rebuild kit, and look for a reputable shop who has knowledge on these.

as for the other possible two routes, I’m guessing going used can be quite risky and new may be pretty pricey.
 

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as for the other possible two routes, I’m guessing going used can be quite risky and new may be pretty pricey.

Lots of good trucks get traded in, but so do most of the lemons, known damaged, and known broken trucks, so buyer beware and inspect carefully or have it inspected. I know numerous people who have limped into a trade in with fingers crossed that it would run long enough to dump.
 
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Lots of good trucks get traded in, but so do most of the lemons, known damaged, and known broken trucks, so buyer beware and inspect carefully or have it inspected. I know numerous people who have limped into a trade in with fingers crossed that it would run long enough to dump.


GordoJay, I completely hear you and agree. Unfortunate that I bought sight-unseen, though I still like my Raptor. Just sucks not being able to utilize it. If I may ask you, would you rather rebuild or replace the transmission, if replace, new/reman or used? Though used can be a gamble. Thank you.
 

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I wouldn't go new, unless you're a baller. A rebuilt transmission should still give you a year warranty or more and be just as reliable. Lots of people run 37's, don't see that contributing to the problem. although a good escape route for the factory. Make sure the shop that rebuilds it, gives you a warranty with your 37's in place as well. Post a pic of your Raptor while you are at it and the box's of parts. Good luck.
 

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It sounds like the previous owner may have beat hell out of the truck and then traded it. Does it have signs that a tune was installed? A bad tune can roast a transmission in short order, especially combined with oversized tires.

Did the dealer provide a quote to repair the transmission? These units are fully serviceable; any experienced Ford transmission tech can disassemble and reassemble the unit in less than one day. However, if there are metal shavings present in the fluid or internal components have been sitting around unprotected and exposed to contamination, I would replace the unit instead of risking future issues. The Ford/Motorcraft remanufactured unit is warrantied for 3 years/unlimited miles, but the truck will need to be running the factory calibration and factory size tires.
 

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It sounds like the previous owner may have beat hell out of the truck and then traded it. Does it have signs that a tune was installed? A bad tune can roast a transmission in short order, especially combined with oversized tires.

Did the dealer provide a quote to repair the transmission? These units are fully serviceable; any experienced Ford transmission tech can disassemble and reassemble the unit in less than one day. However, if there are metal shavings present in the fluid or internal components have been sitting around unprotected and exposed to contamination, I would replace the unit instead of risking future issues. The Ford/Motorcraft remanufactured unit is warrantied for 3 years/unlimited miles, but the truck will need to be running the factory calibration and factory size tires.
That's a better warranty than new, with unlimited mileage :eek::happy107:
 
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