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I run two batteries in my trailer, but I can't see adding more weight for pleasure use scenario's, could see it for commercial use though at a large job site. The future is going to be exciting.
I was just watching tv and an Amazon ad was on about their fleet becoming 100% electric, look at how many cities have electric bus service. I know that in certain parts of Europe electric is BIG. Ferrari and others, even here in the states the torque convertor is replaced with a electric boost motor... Whats next.......
 

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I was just watching tv and an Amazon ad was on about their fleet becoming 100% electric, look at how many cities have electric bus service. I know that in certain parts of Europe electric is BIG. Ferrari and others, even here in the states the torque convertor is replaced with a electric boost motor... Whats next.......
Yes, seen that as well. They are going to need a lot of batteries to keep those deliveries going all day long, lol. I guess they will figure out how to do it.
 

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If we’re all gonna be driving EVs whether we like it or not in a few years, can the manufacturers/govt/people @ least be honest about the intent/environmental impact of them at least one time for me? Please?

the batteries are still produced using rare earth elements utilizing a mining & refining process that hurts the environment, exploits near slave labor in 3rd world countries, & creates hazardous waste byproducts in both the mining, refining/production AND “recycling” phases (ie: they can’t be fully recycled yet in a closed loop process & its also not economically sustainable- would need subsidies to make a “business case” @ this point)

Everyone already mentioned the lack of charging stations.....& then there’s the elephant in the room- exactly WHERE & from WHAT does the majority of our power come from? It ain’t sunshine, wind & water I’ll tell ya that much.

probably first thing that needs to happen would be more nuclear power plants, OR come up w/ some other new clean efficient energy source we don’t have yet (cold fusion?)

don’t tell me that EVs are “green” it’s a straight up fraudulent lie. Period. Tell me that you like the “idea” that they “could be more green than traditional ICEs if we get to a point where we address the power grid & battery recycling/production issues”
 

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Yeah lots of work to do before the takeover but an overnight charger at home would satisfy a bunch of people. Something that doesn’t require a contractor to install would be a good start. Haven’t even seen much of that.

From what I've seen, you 'll be able to get slow charging by plugging the vehicle in to your normal 110V outlet, and that should be ok for charging your vehicle overnight. Fast charging, charging fully in a couple hours, requires 240V, what you're washer probably runs off of. So for that, you're going to need a contractor to install a new outlet for you...unless your dryer's already in the garage.

As far as there needing to be publicly available chargers, I think that's more of a perception problem then reality. I don't think I've gone over 300 miles in a single day in about a year and half. Yes, I'd want the option to go on a long trip, but I could opt to just deal with public charging along the way, rent a vehicle, or use a different vehicle if there are other vehicles in the household.

As the 'green' of EVs, I agree that it's overblown. If I get one one day, it will be for the appeal of the performance and tech features, possibly the convenience of never having to pay for gas. I'm not under the illusion that I'm saving the planet. Overall, I like the idea of a hybrid for performance benefit better than a pure EV.
 

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If we’re all gonna be driving EVs whether we like it or not in a few years, can the manufacturers/govt/people @ least be honest about the intent/environmental impact of them at least one time for me? Please?

the batteries are still produced using rare earth elements utilizing a mining & refining process that hurts the environment, exploits near slave labor in 3rd world countries, & creates hazardous waste byproducts in both the mining, refining/production AND “recycling” phases (ie: they can’t be fully recycled yet in a closed loop process & its also not economically sustainable- would need subsidies to make a “business case” @ this point)

Everyone already mentioned the lack of charging stations.....& then there’s the elephant in the room- exactly WHERE & from WHAT does the majority of our power come from? It ain’t sunshine, wind & water I’ll tell ya that much.

probably first thing that needs to happen would be more nuclear power plants, OR come up w/ some other new clean efficient energy source we don’t have yet (cold fusion?)

don’t tell me that EVs are “green” it’s a straight up fraudulent lie. Period. Tell me that you like the “idea” that they “could be more green than traditional ICEs if we get to a point where we address the power grid & battery recycling/production issues”
Currently I am working on a "Matter-Antimatter Warp Drive" in my basement, I have been successful in powering the USS Enterprise and am hoping to shrink the technology down to produce reliable energy for the general consumer market.

Actually some scientist are working on this, lol.
 

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If we’re all gonna be driving EVs whether we like it or not in a few years, can the manufacturers/govt/people @ least be honest about the intent/environmental impact of them at least one time for me? Please?

Right?! I watched this video from Harry's Garage when it was posted and found it very enlightening/interesting. From what I remember, he breaks down what the carbon dioxide production of the energy used in the geographic location where one charges their EV. In my many cases it was nearly as much pollution from producing the electricity to charge the EVs as an average IC vehicle would produce driving the same distance. And that's before even considering the impact of mining and manufacturing the batteries to get the EVs on the road! Worth a watch if you've got a minute:
 

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Also consider this....If we could magically snap our fingers & guarantee the majority of cars on the road today would be EVs I’m pretty sure the idea of “public charging stations” & “free electricity” would last about 2 weeks until the realization of just how much of draw every day charging millions of vehicles would be on the existing power grid(s)

Man it just infuriates me the whole thing truly is a farce when you start really thinking about it in practicality
 
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