TFL: Gen 3 + GT500 V8 is confirmed

BaseRaptor said:

Ford leadership will need to approve a V8 option for the Raptor because of the Ram TRX competition. Ford will not let a competitor dominate over their performance oriented 3rd generation Raptor. A V8 Raptor will probably start in the low $70k range before destination and options to be competitive with the TRX.

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kenb said:

There are too many people in the world trying to mind too many other's business.

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TurboTJ said:

Ram has to be a little nervous. They are at a huge weight disadvantage so if the Raptor has anything close to the same amount of HP, it will be faster/quicker.

Also, Ram seems to be pulling their HP number from the more optimistic side of things. I drove the 440HP power wagon and even with its we little 31” tires, it was so slow!

But this is typical of dodge and typical of dodge buyers. Throw horsepower at it so their one dimensional buyers can have something to brag about.

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GordoJay said:

I would take the 450hp TT over the 750hp V8 ... but that doesn't mean you aren't nuts.

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kenb said:

Ok, I'll bite.

Do you even own a Raptor? Doubtful.

You should check, I did respond to that old post. I asked you if a L88 Vette was a musclecar. Crickets.

Let's use your examples. Is the Vette the "Halo" car for GM, what ever the hell that is? It has several versions all the way up to the ZR1, the top of the line, not the ZO6. Same basic body style with different motors. Your other example proves my point. The Mustang GT500 and GT350. Same top of the line cars with different engines.

Would you feel better if Ford called it the "Raptor V6 Twin Turbo" and the "Raptor Supercharged V8"? Same body style but with different engines.

Ford has already done this. The first Raptor had a 5.4L engine and the next year they moved to a 6.2L. Same generation but two different engines.

Look if you want a V6 Raptor then buy one. None of my business and I don't care. But why are you trying to dictate that that should be my only choice? I just want another option. There are too many people in the world trying to mind too many other's business.

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Donmatteo said:

I would like to have a KERS or something where I don't need to plug it in.

I know it would be super expensive to do that but it would be awesome. I don't want to plug in any car but a V6TT Hybrid that's plug less would be ****.

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combatninja said:

The real problem for Ford here is not raiding the corporate parts bin for the requisite powerplant (they have that covered with the Mustang's Predator V8) but rather how to get it on the dealer's forecourt for a competitive price. Pretty well loaded Raptor super crews go for $75,000 as it is. You fold this engine into the mix along with some cooling upgrades to keep it all together in an off-road duty cycle, possibly a larger wheel and tire package because I imagine it is going to need more brakes and so on and you are at what price point? Can they get close to that $71K mark that the TRX hit? I doubt it. The price gouging that Ford has done with the Gen2 Raptor now has them backed into a corner. Even if they offer the Raptor in two flavors, who is going to pay $75,000 for a boosted V6 with hybrid assist (yeah, like that is going to be reliable) when the TRX is sitting there for the same price? The way FCA rolls, they are going to churn those things out like crazy and they will have $5000 incentives on them in a year. This almost suggests that Ford might be forced into a rethink of Raptor pricing. These specialty pickups probably rank as the #1 money grab in the industry. GM offers a mid-engined sports car built on a dedicated platform that can compete with Porsches for $59,995 for God's sake. And Ford needs to charge the same amount for a tarted up truck based on a platform that is sold by the millions and had the tooling paid off 5 years ago.

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