Is it too late?

NASSTY · Jul 12, 2020

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FL4x4 said:
They're not necessary.Just keep in mind the engineers were forced to feed that blow-by crap back in to the intake. They didn't do it because it's better for the engine. They did it because it's better for the environment and they had no choice. They also design the vehicles with catalytic converts, not because it makes the engine run better (quite the opposite), but again, because they were forced to.

They also didn't equip a lot of vehicles that have the same engine as the Gen2 Raptor with twin turbos. Why? it's not necessary for the engine to have them, but it sure performs a hell of a lot better with them.

I don't agree with your assumption that if the vehicle needed it, the auto manufacture would already provide it, especially when it comes to after market devices that make it run better or last longer.

The Gen2 Raptors don't NEED twin turbos, but yet they have them ... and the truck cost more and performs better than a regular F-150 because of them.

I never said it wouldn't help or it would hurt anything, I just said it wasn't necessary. Just like it wasn't necessary on the 400K mile 2.7 Ecoboost on the f150forum that is still running strong.

FL4x4 · Jul 12, 2020

NASSTY said:
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I never said it wouldn't help or it would hurt anything, I just said it wasn't necessary. Just like it wasn't necessary on the 400K mile 2.7 Ecoboost on the f150forum that is still running strong.

You're right and I never claimed you said it would hurt anything, you said:

NASSTY said:
If really was necessary the truck would have came equipped with one.

I completely disagreed with your statement above and was illustrating why. And as you pointed out that "it wasn't necessary on the 400K mile 2.7 Ecoboost on the f150forum that is still running strong", is it possible that it might run even stronger if it had had a catch can installed early on?

To each their own.

sixshooter_45 · Jul 12, 2020

Let's see the original design was let's put this blow-by into the atmosphere because we sure as hell don't want that crap going into the intake then along came the EPA.

Yes port injection helps but as you can clearly see the above isn't going back into my intake system because only air and fuel belong there as intended by the original design.

It's your engine, the evidence above is what isn't going to go into my intake, it's your engine so do whatever you wish.

If you're planning on keeping your vehicle for the long term a catch can is a good idea.

Some folks just want to ignore what their own eyes and common sense should tell them.

NASSTY · Jul 12, 2020

FL4x4 said:
You're right and I never claimed you said it would hurt anything, you said:

I completely disagreed with your statement above and was illustrating why. And as you pointed out that "it wasn't necessary on the 400K mile 2.7 Ecoboost on the f150forum that is still running strong", is it possible that it might run even stronger if it had had a catch can installed early on?

To each their own.

It's possible, but if it was necessary I doubt it would have made it anywhere near 400K miles.

NASSTY · Jul 12, 2020

sixshooter_45 said:
Let's see the original design was let's put this blow-by into the atmosphere because we sure as hell don't want that crap going into the intake then along came the EPA.

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Yes port injection helps but as you can clearly see the above isn't going back into my intake system because only air and fuel belong there as intended by the original design.

It's your engine, the evidence above is what isn't going to go into my intake, it's your engine so do whatever you wish.

If you're planning on keeping your vehicle for the long term a catch can is a good idea.

Some folks just want to ignore what their own eyes and common sense should tell them.

True, but it looks nothing like that when it goes into the catch can. It goes into the catch can as a fine mist and condensates into that ugly liquid after it's in the catch can.

sixshooter_45 · Jul 12, 2020

NASSTY said:
True, but it looks nothing like that when it goes into the catch can. It goes into the catch can as a fine mist and condensates into that ugly liquid after it's in the catch can.

True and that ugly stuff isn't in my intake, even as a mist.

Mister Pinky · Jul 12, 2020

What can are you running @sixshooter_45?

Winchester30 · Jul 13, 2020

Maybe it’s not necessary, but neither are 5000 mile oil changes, according to Ford.

Do what you feel is best, personally I have one.

They aren’t installed on production vehicles because the manufacturer doesn’t want to put additional maintenance tasks on the consumer.

adllewis42 · Jul 13, 2020

I don't know why people have so much hate on the catch can. I run one on my 2019 and I can say that every time I change my oil (every 5,000), I pour a few ounces of oil out of that can. Do whatever you want with your own truck but I'm personally happy that the oil I pour out of that can is oil that's not being forced through my intake.

sixshooter_45 · Jul 13, 2020

Mister Pinky said:
What can are you running @sixshooter_45?

The UPR Dual valve complete system with the highest quality fittings, hoses, etc. I even have a breather which simply replaces the oil cap in the winter should the system freeze so the pressure would then vent through the one way breather further protecting the system.

It wasn't cheap but neither is the engine and since I want to keep it for a long time I want it to always run at peak Performance.

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