Is it too late?

Joey DeLorenzo · Jul 11, 2020

Thank you all for the replies! Sounds like it's somewhat unnecessary-- I've seen some videos on it actually catching particulate and oil going back into the intake but I guess I'll wait and see. I wish Ford made an OEM part but then again I guess if they made an OEM part they'd think it was required and they'd install it to start :33:

jabroni619 · Jul 11, 2020

Joey DeLorenzo said:
Thank you all for the replies! Sounds like it's somewhat unnecessary-- I've seen some videos on it actually catching particulate and oil going back into the intake but I guess I'll wait and see. I wish Ford made an OEM part but then again I guess if they made an OEM part they'd think it was required and they'd install it to start

Yes it’s going to catch oil. All cars will re-ingest oil, that’s how the emissions systems work. The issue is with cars that only have direct injection. That oil bakes into the back of the intake valves causing carbon build up. Engines with port injection or direct+port injection as is the case with gen 2 raptors, the back of the intake valves are consistently being cleaned off by the fuel.

wheelman55 · Jul 11, 2020

jabroni619 said:
Yes it’s going to catch oil. All cars will re-ingest oil, that’s how the emissions systems work. The issue is with cars that only have direct injection. That oil bakes into the back of the intake valves causing carbon build up. Engines with port injection or direct+port injection as is the case with gen 2 raptors, the back of the intake valves are consistently being cleaned off by the fuel.

Great explanation...very helpful!

hdvvraptor · Jul 11, 2020

i have a mishimoto oil catch brand new still in the box been debating on installing for months lol

Joey DeLorenzo · Jul 11, 2020

hdvvraptor said:
i have a mishimoto oil catch brand new still in the box been debating on installing for months lol

Damnnn! That's a super expensive catch can system! I looked it up! Bahaha, the one I was looking at was like $150....the JLT V3.0

Oldfart · Jul 11, 2020

Joey DeLorenzo said:
I bought my 2017 SCREW Raptor CPO with a little over 48k miles on it. It does not have a catch can. I'm looking to purchase and install the JLT V3.0, I'm wondering 1) is it too late? 2) is there anything else I can do (engine cleaning wise) to help maintain

It's too late!! You should immediately have it delivered to my house. I can pm you the directions, I'll be home tomorrow.

isis · Jul 11, 2020

Not too late because it’s as pointless now as it was when the truck was new.

Mister Pinky · Jul 11, 2020

PorterW1111 said:
the theory of the cans are great but at the end of the day if the ford engineers thought the engine needed a catch can they would have installed it prior to mass production.

I wouldn’t go that far. The same engineers also say that many maintenance items should be done at 100k miles or X years and we all know this is purely a cost of ownership factor.

Can you imagine if Ford told new owners that they had to empty and maintain a catch can? There would be an angry mob with torches and pitchforks. Much simpler to reroute it back into the engine at the cost of long term reliability.

There is a reason Ford Performance sells a catch can for the 5.0/5.2L.

NASSTY · Jul 11, 2020

Mister Pinky said:
There is a reason Ford Performance sells a catch can for the 5.0/5.2L.

If they can sell unnecessary stuff for a profit.....why wouldn't they?

Raptor911 · Jul 11, 2020

Name one production car that has a catch can? You can't because catch cans would defeat the purpose of the PVC system and PVCs exist as to not to pollute. There was a time when cars just vent to atmosphere un-burnt fuel.

BTW .. the 1st ecoboost engines were only direct injected and def needed a catch can BUT instead of just installing one Ford went with port injection (much more expensive) on the 2nd EB engines because catch cans would defeat the purpose of PVC systems which are required for modern cars.

PorterW1111 said:
slick truck. from all the threads ive read on here the gen 2s do not respond well to a catch can. the theory of the cans are great but at the end of the day if the ford engineers thought the engine needed a catch can they would have installed it prior to mass production. With that being said if you start messing with the motor, tune, bigger tubor, air intake, and so on then sure you could benefit form one at the 100k mark. If the motor is at ~40K now then it should be good. as in any of the known issues would have shown face by now. best thing i would suggest is put any money you want to dump into suspension, bumpers, radios....leave the motor alone, just keep up with oil changes and topped off fluids and youll be good to go.

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