TRX throwing shade at the Raptor

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kenb

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If Dodge does put the Hellcat motor in the TRX then I just wish Ford would give us an option of a V8. I love my Challenger Redeye and the way it runs, sounds, and drives. I can only imagine that engine in a truck. But I liked the Raptors I had especially the way they looked. If I had to choose between a Hellcat TRX and a V8 Raptor it would be a tough choice. I just wish I could have to make that decision.
 
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I’m a big V8 fan having owned many half ton trucks, mostly the 6.2L GM V8. Awesome engines. When I first bought my 2019 Raptor without even driving it, I didn’t like the sound at all. What I did like was the great low and mid range torque due to the turbos. It was a pretty quick truck too, as fast as the 6.2L.

I’m now used to the sound of the V6 and I’m really happy with the powerband and engine overall. I think Ford did the right thing in offering an advanced twin turbo V6 with a lot of horsepower and torque in the Raptor.
 

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Actually, everything I have stated is 100% true. I stated that high performance cars with V6 engines are exceptionally rare.

You must be delusional. The exact opposite is true; everything you post is either based on your biased opinion, or flat out just wrong.

You said "trucks" with V6's are rare.

Fact Check: WRONG

Or the fact that every time you let off the gas you lose most of your output until the turbos spool again. There is a reason why V6 engines are very rarely used in trucks or in high performance applications.

You continue to claim that the Raptor/GT engine was used in passenger cars.

Fact Check: WRONG

As I previously thought, the Ford GT has a hand built engine.... that article seems to indicate that it doesn't share very many parts with the passenger car version after all...
 

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Actually, everything I have stated is 100% true.

:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:

I stated that the Ford GT has a different rotating assembly (and was called a liar). I posted a video supporting not only that assertion, but also proving once and for all that the Ford GT has a hand built race motor. Nothing production about it. It's highly unlikely that any of the parts it allegedly shares with the passenger car version are unmodified. Further, I doubt you could buy one of those hand built race motors for much less than $100k, if you could even buy one.

"Highly unlikely based on"...your assumption and personal opinion. Which is irrelevant. The bottom line is they are the same engine architecture and design. Obviously internals are going to be different between a pickup truck application and a super car. Get over it.

Also, consumer sales are an entirely different market from fleet sales. Different buyers. Different preferences. Different uses. You do understand that, right? You're just reaching out desperately for some way to support your false assertions. Bottom line, V6 engines have always been and will always be primarily used for passenger cars. :shrug:

You do understand that you were INCORRECT, right?

You stated the following: "There is a reason why V6 engines are very rarely used in trucks or in high performance applications"

Fleet or retail is irrelevant. In fact, the majority of fleets are harder on their trucks than retail customers, because they're being used for commercial applications. But according to you, they're not suitable to that application. Keep digging the hole deeper, if you weren't such a troll it would be comical.

Now can we please get back to the point of the thread. What do you think Ford should do if RAM puts a Hellcat motor in the TRX?

Maybe if you're stop trolling and posting false information, we could.
 
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Oof... It hurt my brain to get through all these pages, but a few comments had good conversation in it.

First, my experience: I came into Ford ownership from a 5.3L V8 Sierra when I got a 2014 Raptor. I traded that last year for my 2013 Roush Raptor in Race Red.
I bought those two trucks while working in used car sales. We had gotten in Gen 2 Raptors over the course of my employment and I drove quite a few of them. Gen 2's are extremely nice trucks, but I just love the brute feeling of my V8 more - I can't really explain it. We even had a Gen 2 with Borla exhaust that didn't come close, too. (I drove that one a lot. Actually considered buying it...)

Anyway, my inquiry for the guys who are educated about motors:
Like many, the growl and response of the V8 were the main reasons I wanted the V8 when I bought my Gen 1... but someone brought up a good point in an earlier post. Why isn't a boosted, smaller displacement V8 considered? Even a 4._L SC'd V8 would shred, right? I'm honestly asking because I think that would be the only way it would come into a new Raptor.

That being said, what existing motor (from any manufacturer) would you put into the next Gen Raptor if you could make the call?
 

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I think it would be overall counterproductive for Ford to offer the Predator on the Gen 3. If you want a big stonking SC V8 then get an actual sports car with the chassis to handle it not a 3 ton truck with a high center of gravity; ditto TRX.

Ford has placed a ton of engineering, manufacturing effort, and marketing behind EcoBoost and going back to a V8 on their Halo truck goes against their efforts over the last 9 years. I think the launch of the Mach E Mustang is a glimpse into the future of Ford vehicles and would be super interested in a hybrid Raptor with an electric motor working in tandem with the HO 3.5. It would certainly cure that lack of low end torque :emotions122:
 
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