GEN 2 disfigured leaves?

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GCATX

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Why even post a pic when the jack is taking the weight? It doesn't make any sense.
Anyone that has ever pulled a trailer, more than a handful of times, can look at your photo and see that the load has too much tongue weight.
 

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But notice the axle is rearward - away from the car which leverages the weight towards the trailer ramp.
You can see the weight in the photo.

That’a not how it works.

the further an axle is away from the hitch and the more forward the load is, the tongue weight increases.

your load is too far forward. It looks to me that at least 80% of the load is at and before the axle of the trailer.
 

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The trailer axle is not centered on the trailer bed.
Perpendicularly - the axle is closer to the trailer ramp than the trailer tongue.

What I mean by that is because the axle is closer to the ramp, the trailer tongue tends to lift slightly upwards, releasing weight on the trailer hitch.
If the axle was centered or closer to the tongue, there would be more weight on the trailer hitch.
If the axle was closer to the tongue, it would NOT increase the weight on the hitch. It would bias the weight to the ramp. It would also, pull up on the hitch which would pull the rears of the raptor off the road.
 

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You're thinking of it in reverse. The farther the axle is to the front, the more the AXLE takes the weight. The farther the axle is to the rear, the more tongue weight you will carry. My last boat weighed 5500 lbs and the trailer was about 1200 lbs. The dual axle trailers you can actually move the axles, they are on u-bolts. I adjusted the tongue down to 250 lbs because at times I was moving it with my work mini-vans that couldn't take the weight and I didn't really care if I beat the **** out of them because they were leased. The boat towed perfectly, even at high speeds.

What you are worrying about on a fairly light single axle, the sway, has a lot more to do with the height/angle of your trailer tongue, than it does the tongue weight. A single axle trailer is very sensitive to tongue angle, especially if it angles up towards your truck. It will make it hunt around, instead of tracking nicely. That will make it tow very poorly.
 
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Yeah I made a mistake.

The further back (away from vehicle) the axle is, the more leveraged weight on the hitch.

I don't know how I could've made that mistake. Qualms of quarantine I suppose.

What was in my mind was correct, I'll explain in a second, but it came out wrong.

The trailer tongue sits lower than the tow ball.

To couple the tow ball, I need to raise the coupler a bit.

So theres a slight A shape at the ball and hitch. This is what I was referring to earlier when I need to make the trailer horizontal axis flatter.
Because the ball is higher than the tongue horizontal axis, the tongue axis points upwards (say 10 o'clock).

This upward diagonal angle slightly reduces the weight on the ball.
 

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My 2019 looked like that when brand new springs were installed after the 1 st set took a crap at 2100 miles brand new set looked like that so don’t waste money doing Deavers etc. find a local spring shop ask them to add 1 leaf of steel and done. Made mine a little stiffer and raised it about 2 inches. And total cost with all new hardware was less that 425 bucks. Deavers for towing was oem take offs with a spring added and was like a grand plus shipping then install.
Wrong! I’m sure it rides great! Deavers are a progressive 11 spring pack and get progressively stiffer as they cycle through the travel. You paid $425 to **** up your truck and spent half of the cost of deavers.
 

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Yeah I made a mistake.

The further back (away from vehicle) the axle is, the more leveraged weight on the hitch.

I don't know how I could've made that mistake. Qualms of quarantine I suppose.

What was in my mind was correct, I'll explain in a second, but it came out wrong.

The trailer tongue sits lower than the tow ball.

To couple the tow ball, I need to raise the coupler a bit.

So theres a slight A shape at the ball and hitch. This is what I was referring to earlier when I need to make the trailer horizontal axis flatter.
Because the ball is higher than the tongue horizontal axis, the tongue axis points upwards (say 10 o'clock).

This upward diagonal angle slightly reduces the weight on the ball.

Not bring rude. You have several people telling you that you've overloaded your truck and the bent springs are a result of that yet you still try, incorrectly, to point out how you are right.

You initially started this thread asking as if it was a defect or normal and mentioned "no jumping" yet failed to mention, what it appears, you tow quite a bit.

Your premise of angles, weight, physics and math are the issue here.

You overloaded your truck and you have 3 options.

1. Pay to replace it with stock springs and pay out of pocket because you damaged them by exceeding the limts
2. Replace them with Deavers that can help with towing.
3. Live it with.

Regardless if what you do, you need to learn how to tow and load because what you are doing is not only a danger to you, but to others on the roads.
 

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This upward diagonal angle slightly reduces the weight on the ball.

It effectively makes no difference. Go outside and pick up the tongue of the trailer and hold it level. Now drop it 2 inches. Now raise it 4 inches. Feel any different?
 

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While OPs explanation was a bit off, that doesn’t look like a big enough load to damage the springs regardless. I pull a bigger SxS on a larger trailer with no damage to the springs. I’ve even pulled it with 4 passengers plus a weekends worth of luggage.
 
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