Pissed after recent software update!

Chainguide · Mar 6, 2020

I have a 2018 802A and I live in Southern California. I personally hate the auto shut-off feature when coming to a stoplight. I always manually turn it off from the button on my dash. About 6 months ago, I took the truck into the dealer for some unrelated warranty work and when I got it back, there were some tell tale signs that the software had been updated. Cool! So I did some exploring through the system settings and discovered that I could permanently toggle off/disable the auto start feature. I was ecstatic! Well about 2 weeks ago I pulled up to a Starbucks and my Sync automatically joined the WiFi and performed an automatic update. I then noticed auto stop was happening again. I went back into the system and turned off this feature, but now every time I restart the truck, it reverts back to the default of auto stop on. GGGRRRRR!! I am pissed. Did anyone else experience this? Is there a work around (besides Forscan) that I am not aware of? I know this is a minor thing but it is just f*^king annoying.

smurfslayer · Mar 6, 2020

Chainguide said:
I have a 2018 802A and I live in Southern California. I personally hate the auto shut-off feature when coming to a stoplight. I always manually turn it off from the button on my dash. About 6 months ago, I took the truck into the dealer for some unrelated warranty work and when I got it back, there were some tell tale signs that the software had been updated. Cool! So I did some exploring through the system settings and discovered that I could permanently toggle off/disable the auto start feature. I was ecstatic!

I doubt sincerely that the dealer did anything to the truck programming to disable ASS and despite the menu option with misleading verbiage, that setting does not survive an ignition cycle. This is an economy/CAFE “feature”, and I use that term very loosely. More than likely, your observation of the truck not automatically shutting off was coincidental.

Chainguide said:
Well about 2 weeks ago I pulled up to a Starbucks and my Sync automatically joined the WiFi and performed an automatic update. I then noticed auto stop was happening again. I went back into the system and turned off this feature, but now every time I restart the truck, it reverts back to the default of auto stop on. GGGRRRRR!! I am pissed. Did anyone else experience this? Is there a work around (besides Forscan) that I am not aware of?

Sync doesn’t control, or have anything to do with the ASS, completely separate modules in the truck.

There are multiple ways to disable ASS on the fleet of Ford vehicles, ranging from simple wire jumper on the manual switch, pull the wire from the harness, jumper the trailer harness(?) Forscan, or buy a module for the switch that ‘defaults’ the ASS to off, but allows you to enable it manually - the opposite of what Ford does. CJ Pony parts sells one that’s plug and play for the switch, Forscan turns it off completely.

Chris Mies · Mar 6, 2020

I think Starbucks forced it in tree-hugger mode to save the planet.

Oldfart · Mar 6, 2020

smurfslayer said:
There are multiple ways to disable ASS on the fleet of Ford vehicles, ranging from simple wire jumper on the manual switch, pull the wire from the harness, jumper the trailer harness(?) Forscan, or buy a module for the switch that ‘defaults’ the ASS to off, but allows you to enable it manually

Do you know where I could buy one of those for myself? Some days I could really use one! I'm guessing I would have to jam the module up my ass, but I'm not a doctor.

Droid · Mar 6, 2020

I think I may have to get one of these...exactly what I want. https://www.cjponyparts.com/autosto...stop-switch-assembly-f-150-2015-2019/p/AE001/ $100 though.

smurfslayer · Mar 6, 2020

Oldfart said:
Do you know where I could buy one of those for myself? Some days I could really use one! I'm guessing I would have to jam the module up my ass, but I'm not a doctor.

You are thinking of the ASS reducer at the gym.

NOT the same thing as the booty builder.

df4801 · Mar 6, 2020

Chainguide said:
I have a 2018 802A and I live in Southern California. I personally hate the auto shut-off feature when coming to a stoplight. I always manually turn it off from the button on my dash. About 6 months ago, I took the truck into the dealer for some unrelated warranty work and when I got it back, there were some tell tale signs that the software had been updated. Cool! So I did some exploring through the system settings and discovered that I could permanently toggle off/disable the auto start feature. I was ecstatic! Well about 2 weeks ago I pulled up to a Starbucks and my Sync automatically joined the WiFi and performed an automatic update. I then noticed auto stop was happening again. I went back into the system and turned off this feature, but now every time I restart the truck, it reverts back to the default of auto stop on. GGGRRRRR!! I am pissed. Did anyone else experience this? Is there a work around (besides Forscan) that I am not aware of? I know this is a minor thing but it is just f*^king annoying.

Did you know there is a search function on this site? Multiple answers to your questions have been discussed a million times

I recommend pulling the 1 connector under the steering wheel. Takes 2 seconds.

GCATX · Mar 6, 2020

df4801 said:
Did you know there is a search function on this site? Multiple answers to your questions have been discussed a million times

I recommend pulling the 1 connector under the steering wheel. Takes 2 seconds.

So there is only 1 wire under the steering wheel? Nice! Do you have to pull the steering wheel to access it?

GCATX · Mar 6, 2020

Oldfart said:
Do you know where I could buy one of those for myself? Some days I could really use one! I'm guessing I would have to jam the module up my ass, but I'm not a doctor.

Solidred · Mar 6, 2020

df4801 said:
Did you know there is a search function on this site? Multiple answers to your questions have been discussed a million times

I recommend pulling the 1 connector under the steering wheel. Takes 2 seconds.

Only problem with pulling that wire is it will fire off a DTC, won’t throw an engine light but because the lack of communication with the BCM it’s throws a DTC. No harm or performance issues

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