Full vs Outer Tie Rods

alphatwox · Feb 24, 2020

About to finish my front suspension upgrades on the 17 SCrew.

I saved my tie rods for last and am not getting ready to pull the trigger and am between the obvious choices of the full inner and outer vs just the outer.

Any thoughts? I know that water intrusion is always a concern when breaking that factory seal for the full upgrade. If I go inner, do I go ADD or SVC? Stick with full from ADD, RPG? Too many ways to skin the same cat.

Opinions/Thoughts?

agobel83 · Feb 25, 2020

I have been running the full setup from Rogue Racing. They are high quality and look great. However I live in Colorado and to your point of breaking the factory seal, I had some issues with my steering rack. I do a ton of winter driving and the stuff used on the roads is hard on stuff. I got a new rack under warranty and left the factory ones on. I miss having them on there but I don’t want to test my luck again.

If you have interest I have the Rogue Kit that I would let go for $350 and I’ll cover shipping.

alphatwox · Feb 25, 2020

agobel83 said:
I have been running the full setup from Rogue Racing. They are high quality and look great. However I live in Colorado and to your point of breaking the factory seal, I had some issues with my steering rack. I do a ton of winter driving and the stuff used on the roads is hard on stuff. I got a new rack under warranty and left the factory ones on. I miss having them on there but I don’t want to test my luck again.

If you have interest I have the Rogue Kit that I would let go for $350 and I’ll cover shipping.

See, that’s my fear...I live in Florida currently, so obviously the high amount of rain we get, but I will be soon headed up to NC and I may not have a huuuuge worry up there as they don’t have large amounts of snow (if any throughout the year besides a dusting) and low salt. That being said, ripping through the clay backroads and what not, I don’t want to have to worry about that seal break and electronic rack/pinion issues.

06z · Feb 26, 2020

I have SVC and would only use a outer kit.

dannym2009 · Feb 26, 2020

I posted this exact question on the Facebook gen 2 group. The consensus was to stick with factory tie rods and keep and extra set as a spare, so that is the direction I went. Full tie rods allow water, etc into the electronic steering rack and cause failure. Outer tie rod ends provide stronger outers, but the inner is still weak, so there is truly no point. You could replace 10 inners or outers with OEM for the price of the SVC outers. My ultimate conclusion was I would only be doing it for looks (to go with my SVC billet UCAs) and at $650, it was not worth it.

alphatwox · Feb 26, 2020

dannym2009 said:
I posted this exact question on the Facebook gen 2 group. The consensus was to stick with factory tie rods and keep and extra set as a spare, so that is the direction I went. Full tie rods allow water, etc into the electronic steering rack and cause failure. Outer tie rod ends provide stronger outers, but the inner is still weak, so there is truly no point. You could replace 10 inners or outers with OEM for the price of the SVC outers. My ultimate conclusion was I would only be doing it for looks (to go with my SVC billet UCAs) and at $650, it was not worth it.

Was beginning to think the same thing the more I looked around! I have a spare set, so I may just stay that route!

06z · Feb 26, 2020

dannym2009 said:
I posted this exact question on the Facebook gen 2 group. The consensus was to stick with factory tie rods and keep and extra set as a spare, so that is the direction I went. Full tie rods allow water, etc into the electronic steering rack and cause failure. Outer tie rod ends provide stronger outers, but the inner is still weak, so there is truly no point. You could replace 10 inners or outers with OEM for the price of the SVC outers. My ultimate conclusion was I would only be doing it for looks (to go with my SVC billet UCAs) and at $650, it was not worth it.

The ones I have seen that were bent were outers. I believe that is the weakest link. I would like to see if some inners have bent.

Dirtstig51 · Sep 6, 2021

06z said:
The ones I have seen that were bent were outers. I believe that is the weakest link. I would like to see if some inners have bent.

I bent and snapped a passenger inner last night left me stranded.

06z · Sep 6, 2021

SenditLOL said:
I bent and snapped a passenger inner last night left me stranded.

Better to bend a inner than damage the steering rack. It worked like it’s supposed to.

mattl600 · Sep 6, 2021

06z said:
I have SVC and would only use a outer kit.

Same here

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