GEN 1 Cold Weather Tips? (Canada)

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There you go, 0w20. Funny enough, Ford made the recomendation for it.

You can run whatever oil you want to, hell run olive oil in it, but ford recommends a weight and blend, maybe its even got millions of dollars in research and has reason behind it. I don't know why people are advocating that we take the OEM's experience and desire to keep vehicles running in every single climate with a grain of salt. I mean, why does Ford care if the engines last through the warranty, its only their reputation on the line and billions of dollars, I am sure they haven't put any thought into it.

Oh, and I can guarantee the petroleum and mechanical engineers that set up these oils, and determined the engine clearances didn't do so because they didn't like the way it poured out of a bottle at a cold temperature. Or because they "felt" like it was too thick or thin.

Do you think they expect people to change their oil when they go from Lake Havasu to Grand Forks North Dakota, or take a road trip from the keys to Fairbanks? Do truckers stop halfway through a maintenance cycle because they are seeing a 100° swing in their climates? Nope, they don't, because modern oils have already taken care of it.

Ford wants a cold climate viscocity, they have gone to all the effort of recommending a 5W (Thats 5 winter for anyone who hasn't read the links) or 0w. Ford also wants a warm climate viscosity and they were kind enough to share all these nice numbers with us so we, and our mechanics could easily do whats best for the vehicle.

And since you think I am to be discredited @dewalt: I have built my own engines: 2 stroke through big block, and no I don't mean I handed a bunch of parts to a machinist. I make my own measurements, select my own bearings and components, do my own assembly and torquing, and determine appropriate oil weights for myself. Based off of fact, published articles, experiential research and good old fashioned knowledge. I have blown up engines at 800+ horsepower and made them live just the same.

I studied Petroleum engineering at Colorado School of Mines, I have distilled crude in lab environments and done my own analysis. I have been to blending facilities, I have observed processes of turning natural gas to synthetics and I understand what goes into them and why. Since you have felt a need to come at me personally what are your credentials? Why do you get to command this ship and insult me without knowing who I am?
 

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I bow at your feet but you know squat about oil and cold . Ford recommends thin oil when its cold. Its what I said rite off the bat.
 

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Terrible advise. This is Relic "knowledge" from the 70's, and needs to die.

Factory recommendation is 5w20, the 5 is winter viscosity and 20 is warm temp. These oils lose viscosity the colder they get so going to a 0 is exactly the wrong decision. You do not need to play with this, going to a 0 cold viscosity is going to put unnecessary wear on bearings, especially when your talking about someone who is starting their truck "10-20 times per day". Its also a good way to lower oil pressure in a system that's already heavily taxed. Going to a 30 hot viscosity will do nothing but put extra strain on the oil pump and reduce fuel economy.

You do not know better than the ford engineers who set the engine clearances and specified the bearings and oil weight, and whom actually have an understanding of the chemistry of modern oils.


Your response to me saying 0w30 synthetic. The reason I said 30 was I did a quick look at what ford recommended for a 2014 6.2 and they recommended a 30 weight oil in the manual I saw. Your response above is academic crap. Ford recommends
0w20 for cold. Your posted site recommends 0w for cold , So the terrible advice is what you posted.
 
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The transmission heater does sound like an upgrade I'm willing to do. Which one do you have installed?

I went to the local NAPA auto parts store in Healy, AK and bought what they have. one of their clients is a mining operation so the quality of product is pretty good , Sorry I don't remember the brand name .
it is brown in color and the same brand as everything else we installed . So far everything has been working really well .
 
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I went to the local NAPA auto parts store in Healy, AK and bought what they have. one of their clients is a mining operation so the quality of product is pretty good , Sorry I don't remember the brand name .
it is brown in color and the same brand as everything else we installed . So far everything has been working really well .

I just went to my local Napa store and they haven't hear of a transmission heater. Are your oil pan and transmission heaters the "pad-type" that stick on the outside or the threaded immersion ones that are installed inside?
 

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I just went to my local Napa store and they haven't hear of a transmission heater. Are your oil pan and transmission heaters the "pad-type" that stick on the outside or the threaded immersion ones that are installed inside?

I lived in the cold for 25 years and never needed a trans heater. Block heater, synthetic oil in everything (diffs, Trans, P-Pump, engine)
Let your truck have a decent amount of time to warm up before horsing on it, and Krown the shit out of it...
 
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