Do B&O supercabs have Subwoofer

pbtjrlmrt said:

So then tell us...what prices are you able to get on the parts I listed? If you're proposing different components then please list your alternatives. Iagree that the parts listed are on the upper end and a decent system can put together for less but I listed the components I used and the current prices. Your post doesn't help anyone.

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I solved all these problems already.

https://www.fordraptorforum.com/threads/it-is-done-started-my-b-o-replacement-stereo-install.68874/

$5k is way overkill.

Droid said:

Went from 2011 Sony (totally stock) to 2019 B&0 (totally stock). Can totally understand if to a proper audiophile both of those systems are absolute junk...but for me it was genuinely a night-day difference. I'm completely kidding calling B&O best stereo ever....but the 2011 Sony was just plain wrong. The stereo in the last rental car I had (2019 RAV4) was more accurate (not as loud, but still notably more accurate at medium-for-it volumes). Sony was not worn out either, it was bad on day 1 and day 3200, and brother's identical truck was same. I actually enjoy the sound in my 2019.

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I feel the same way. Came from a Wrangler with the upgraded Apline system with sub, and the B&O system in my Raptor is 1,000,000x better. If your an Audiophile I get its not the best but I love it for a stock system.

It’s not bad for what it is basically. If you listen to it with the engine off, it has ample power. But that’s not reality. I wish it wasn’t on the muddy sounding side and had more power. The Forscan mod helps the bass keep up with the rest of the system at least.

One day I’ll have to work in some upgrades. But it gets me by.

goblues38 said:

I solved all these problems already.

https://www.fordraptorforum.com/threads/it-is-done-started-my-b-o-replacement-stereo-install.68874/

$5k is way overkill.

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You have inferior speakers and amp. The JL HD is better than the RD. The Focal's are WAY better than the Hertz and you're missing a DSP. You can't tune the system. You may like it as is but many will want the ability to set speaker timing amongst other things. You're under seat sub box is what teenagers do. Eating up Valuable floor space instead of spending the time/money to build an ample box behind the seats. I'm not saying that your build is bad it's just that you get what you pay for. "overkill" is in the ears of the listener. I've gone with budget systems that can't be tuned such as yours and much prefer the richness and customability provided by a quality DSP and the utility of not wasting cargo space for speakers when a skilled craftsman can make a box that perfectly sits behind the rear seat. I applaud your effort and the quality system on a budget but again...you get what you pay for. I'm sure it sounds great and a million times better than stock but it's not comparable to the configuration I put together. Saying it's over kill implies that it's not necessary and to that extent everything that's beyond stock is overkill. If you want high quality sound you will pay up...if you want the highest quality sound you pay up even more. Not that complicated. There's no way to compare the two builds other than to look at the stats...which say plenty...and no way to know what a person will be satisfied with. If you have the money go big...if not then I'd say your build is a good mid range example.

pbtjrlmrt said:

You have inferior speakers and amp. The JL HD is better than the RD. The Focal's are WAY better than the Hertz and you're missing a DSP. You can't tune the system.

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I agree i "could" have gone with much higher end equipment. But the goal of the system was to blow away stock for cheap. IMHO, there is not enough air space to do a behind the seat box without going custom fiberglass, and I just was not that interested.

We will agree to disagree on the DSP. I don't like them, and a properly set up system does not need a DSP.

pbtjrlmrt said:

I applaud your effort and the quality system on a budget but again...you get what you pay for.

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Yes. Goal of the system was to have a loud great sounding system with plenty of bottom end for a price and look i could live with. Because I am not a "teen".....i have no need for bling and fancy amp racks.

All i know is, my **** sounds better then 97% of every other Raptor on this board. And that is enough for me. I suspect many people as well. Hence the "overkill" comment.

I think it's safe to say that you're generally going to see diminishing returns the more money you put into an audio system. I would bet the difference in subjective sound quality between stock and GoBlues system is much greater than the sound quality difference between GoBlues and phtjrimrt. And there probably a lot of people who can't even tell the difference. Whether it's necessary is really a matter of opinion.

For someone putting in an audio system with little experience in these matters, the hard part is figuring where the sweet spot is for you. Advice from others can help, but they can put values on certain features for you. I personally went for a $4k system (I replaced a Sony, not B&0) which included labor. I think I hit it the sweet spot pretty good, bit it's entirely possibly I could have been just as happy with cheaper.

Below is a description of my build for reference


https://www.fordraptorforum.com/posts/1389672/

I saved an easy $1,500 on labor because I could do it all myself.

goblues38 said:

I saved an easy $1,500 on labor because I could do it all myself.

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Agreed...not to mention the comfort of knowing it was done right. I will argue though for the DSP. Without one you will never be able to properly set up the system. Being able to control front and rear volume separately and speaker timing is suboptimal. Using the fader controls does not achieve the same thing but works in a pinch. DSP's aren't that much but give you the ability to really dial in the system. You can have settings for driver only, Driver and passenger and for full surround amongst other things. It's certainly not a necessity but for the money it seems like it could make a significant difference.

melvimbe said:

I think it's safe to say that you're generally going to see diminishing returns the more money you put into an audio system. I would bet the difference in subjective sound quality between stock and GoBlues system is much greater than the sound quality difference between GoBlues and phtjrimrt. And there probably a lot of people who can't even tell the difference. Whether it's necessary is really a matter of opinion.

For someone putting in an audio system with little experience in these matters, the hard part is figuring where the sweet spot is for you. Advice from others can help, but they can put values on certain features for you. I personally went for a $4k system (I replaced a Sony, not B&0) which included labor. I think I hit it the sweet spot pretty good, bit it's entirely possibly I could have been just as happy with cheaper.

Below is a description of my build for reference


https://www.fordraptorforum.com/posts/1389672/

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Agreed...well said