2017 low mileage 30k miles or 2018 50k miles?

If the 17 has a plastic pan then I would reconsider the 18.

Never buy the first model year of a vehicle. Ever.

Its a bit of a drive, but here's one in Ohio with less than 15k and they're asking 59000. https://www.autonation.com/cars/1FTFW1RG7JFC99452

Badgertits said:

Never buy the first model year of a vehicle. Ever.

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Glad I didn’t listen to that advice! My 2017 has been the most reliable vehicle I’ve owned. (And I usually buy Lexus)

df4801 said:

Glad I didn’t listen to that advice! My 2017 has been the most reliable vehicle I’ve owned. (And I usually buy Lexus)

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Don’t get me wrong- my dad bought a loaded up ‘07 Chevy Silverado LTZ back in the day - put 50k on it, I drove it another 10-15k then sold to my buddy who put 100k More miles on it before trading. In on a ‘14 - new model year ;-) - GMC that wound up w/ every possible problem trucks of that gen you could have.

Vast majority of vehicles produced are relatively trouble free for 100-150k, but it goes without saying that the first iteration of a complete redesign is usually a “work in progress” the first few model years & that’s where the manufacturer will start identifying issues that happen in real world longer term use vs. factory testing. Then the little quirks get fixed, TSBs get issued, part #s get upgraded etc etc etc - this isn’t hyperbole, it’s just the way manufacturing works.

Now- you mention Lexus/Toyota- which is funny, because I’m convinced a big part of their perceived “reliability” is really a lack of forward progress and/or fear of re-engineering/designing their most popular vehicles - especially when they’ve strayed away from whatever that recipe may have been. In other words they fret & toil over a design for probably 2-3x as long as most other makes, then once into production they too address the lil quirks & proceed to do nothing but massage that design for gee I dunno- multiple decades in some cases? Tell me a Toyota Tacoma, 4runned, Tundra, Sequoia, landcruiser is “reliable”? I’ll say yeah - reliably dated in every way possible- better get it right after perfecting the same friggin thing for 15 years.

The initial design for the tundra dates back to ‘04-05 launched for ‘07 model year- impressive or embarrassing?

Same decision made last march, spent up for '18 for $64k. I smile everytime i jump into it
Just hit 9k and all has been great.

konoha said:

Hi everyone,
Was wondering which you would consider if buying used. I'd like to keep my limit to $55k. It seems dealers are selling 2018 with 50k+ miles with 802 package at around $55k. Has anyone seen prices lower? Do you think 50k miles on a 2018 is excessive? Do 2017 models comprise problems the 2018 fixed? Which would you consider if buying used? Never thought I'd consider a raptor but here I am... was about to pull trigger on a mid grade lariat.

Thanks!

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df4801 said:

Get a 2017 with less miles. Exact same as the 2018. My 2017 with almost 40k miles has been perfect. Just oil changes and a set of tires. Not a single issue. Got 2 buddies with 2017’s as well. No issues.

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It’s crazy how much the Raptor lost value since ford starting making 200-300% (a buddy on the assembly line said 500%) more per year now then they did the first 4 years. For example I paid 67k in 2015 of a used 2013. It took me 3 months and 37 dealers in Texas to find the 802a in blue or black back then. 250k later she still makes me smile.
If you go used and these are the only 2 options given, then I say go for the 17
IMO all new trucks are 10-15k over priced across the line.

Here's a leadfoot for 6 grand under your budget
https://www.lubberscars.com/used/Ford/2018-Ford-F-150-2c395b590a0e0a174b6b09a02363be4f.htm

or silver, without as many options though.
https://www.lubberscars.com/used/Ford/2018-Ford-F-150-de633cc90a0e0ae8193ab96a9dce4947.htm

konoha said:

Do you think 50k miles on a 2018 is excessive?

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Yes, but not by much. i bought my 2018 in late Oct, 2018, I just turned 20k miles @ 1 year. So if they bought late 2017 they truck is 2 years at 25k a year...not terrible.

konoha said:

Do 2017 models comprise problems the 2018 fixed?

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biggest fix from 17 to 18 is the oil pan. They got rid of the plastic drain plug.

jaggwaa said:

. Save yourself another 15 to 20k and go for a 2014 or 2015 gen1, thats a good long term vehicle. or buy a fully loaded tundra trd> that is for sure a 20+ year truck.

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LOL...sasquatch much?