Anyone see the Ford oil consumption warnings this week?

Mbdurham · Jul 6, 2019

smurfslayer said:
Seriously? You drop almost 70 large on a new vehicle and you don’t check the oil regularly?

I’m not saying that if you’re unlucky enough to have an oil consuming engine that it’s somehow ok, it’s not. But a lot of people have publicly posted here that they got the sudden oil pressure alert and subsequently admitted they’d not checked the oil in recent history or even verified it was fully oiled when they drove off the lot. They have no realistic way to know if they were low on oil when the truck was delivered because they didn’t check, so now they have to dance with Ford service and go through the consumption test. Actually the manufacturer is irrelevant to this point, but since we’re talking Raptors, its Ford. EVERY manufacturer has a very, very generous tolerance for oil consumption, or they would be on the hook for every single engine that had any hint of consumption.

Nevertheless, running your truck “5 quarts low” on oil (seen in a recent post) is just plain neglect.

similar concept here - a lot of folks had their trucks delivered with 45-50 PSI in all 5 tires, drove off the lot like that and complained about poor ride quality, never having checked the psi before ... you know, driving the thing! Some of these same people have some really nice pics of other rides that are as much or more in cost than the Rap, and I have to wonder if they’re even bothering to check routine stuff on their Porsche, Ferrari, Audi, Corvette, etc.

Agree to disagree I guess. I am not condoning or saying that people who never check their oil level are correct however I would never in a million years have thought to check the oil level on day 1 or more than every few thousand miles. The only way I found these threads was searching after it happened. Maybe it should be a sticky or something. I was looking for mod threads not oil low from factory threads lol

However to me having to check the oil level on delivery as I am not supposed to trust the manufacturer or the dealer to get it right is the equivalent of saying you need to check the lug nuts to make sure they are torqued correctly and a wheel doesn’t fall off, diff, transfer case, transmission fluid levels, alignment, heck every bolt on the truck to make sure they got it right....what’s the difference?

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smurfslayer · Jul 6, 2019

Mbdurham said:
having to check the oil level on delivery as I am not supposed to trust the manufacturer or the dealer to get it right is the equivalent of saying you need to check the lug nuts to make sure they are torqued correctly and a wheel doesn’t fall off

That happened to me on my old Exploder, I felt something wrong on the way home from brake work. It was just under 2.5 miles back, another 2.5 back to the shop. Sure enough, they didn’t torque down the lugs on the front passenger side. ruined one stud, plus the disc. And I’ve also seen a wheel come off on the interstate.

No, I don’t carry a torque wrench with me, but yeah, I check when I’m able at home.

df4801 · Jul 6, 2019

I refuse to check the oil in my truck because I can't reach the dipstick without a ladder. That's why I get the oil changed every 5k miles.

Mbdurham · Jul 7, 2019

smurfslayer said:
That happened to me on my old Exploder, I felt something wrong on the way home from brake work. It was just under 2.5 miles back, another 2.5 back to the shop. Sure enough, they didn’t torque down the lugs on the front passenger side. ruined one stud, plus the disc. And I’ve also seen a wheel come off on the interstate.

No, I don’t carry a torque wrench with me, but yeah, I check when I’m able at home.

Wow that sux yeah I get it after service but as I said after service I always double check but at delivery? That’s a new one...hope you called and complained ...was that at the stealership?

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nowires · Jul 7, 2019

Picked up my Raptor about a month ago and have put about 600 miles on it so far. Checked the oil today and its reading somewhere in the middle. Thats a bit concerning to me, although I failed to check it when I picked up the truck so I don't know where it was in the beginning. Will have to check it weekly to make sure its not burning too much.

HoldenTX · Jul 7, 2019

smurfslayer said:
It also wouldn’t be an issue if people who took delivery of their trucks actually checked their oil more than once every year whether the truck needs it or not.

While that is true (and true of anything that ever breaks) I don't agree that turning this back on to the customer as their fault is an acceptable position. There a are a LOT of circumstances that can make it impossible for a person to check their oil levels - and frankly I can't think of why the oil level indicator on the dash doesn't show a problem when you are running 2+ quarts low. That is on Ford.
Yes - I am in the same camp - just had the truck into the service dept. who added 2 quarts of oil. Not an uncommon problem according to the service dept. I visited.
Perhaps a screw up at the factory - and the dealer prep people - but based on these threads has gone on for years. This is quality control 101 on an assembly line - and most likely laziness by dealer-prep crews who just assume the factory would never screw up something so simple.

But - frankly the idea of checking your oil every month is a 30+ year old idea - I can accept that some engines will burn oil - but I can't accept that Ford is producing engines that make me have to check the level with a dipstick more often than what the vehicle manual prescribes. If my washing machine guy tell me that it was my fault that it failed because I wasn't checking the drum lubrication I'd send him packing.

NASSTY · Jul 7, 2019

I don't trust anybody so I always check the oil level when I buy a new vehicle. I also check it about every other week between oil changes. My 2017 hasn't used any in 35K miles so far.

smurfslayer · Jul 7, 2019

Mbdurham said:
Wow that sux yeah I get it after service but as I said after service I always double check but at delivery? That’s a new one...hope you called and complained ...was that at the stealership?

I drove straight back; I could feel a wobble and knew something was wrong, got home found loose lug nuts, did the best I could in a quick turnaround with a socket / driver, called and headed back. shop took responsibility and agreed to replace the rotor.

That wasn’t at the stealership, and once I was clear I’ve not been back there. Normally I do rotors, pads and such myself but there was some reason I had to take the exploder in.

HoldenTX said:
While that is true (and true of anything that ever breaks) I don't agree that turning this back on to the customer as their fault is an acceptable position. There a are a LOT of circumstances that can make it impossible for a person to check their oil levels - and frankly I can't think of why the oil level indicator on the dash doesn't show a problem when you are running 2+ quarts low. That is on Ford.

You can have a service station check your oil, not a gas station, a service station. While you get gas. Not ideal, but possible. I’d bet they wouldn’t even charge you. You could ask a neighbor, family member, or if you’re injured etc. I’d bet the selling dealer would - again, I’d bet they’d do it free.

The oil gauge on the dash is a faux gauge, it’s really an “idiot light”. if there’s any oil pressure it shows in the same spot. Ford hasn’t put actual oil pressure or temperature gauges in their vehicles since... the 90’s(?). My ’90 Mustang GT had a working gauge; that is, the sweeper gauge moved with actual conditions, but when it failed, the only available replacement was a ‘dumb’ on/off sender.

HoldenTX said:
I can't accept that Ford is producing engines that make me have to check the level with a dipstick more often than what the vehicle manual prescribes

That’s actually a fairly compelling point. average mileages is 12k / year, or 1k per month. what does the manual actually recommend... Every month in the F150 manual.

Yoshi · Jul 7, 2019

nowires said:
Picked up my Raptor about a month ago and have put about 600 miles on it so far. Checked the oil today and its reading somewhere in the middle. Thats a bit concerning to me, although I failed to check it when I picked up the truck so I don't know where it was in the beginning. Will have to check it weekly to make sure its not burning too much.

I think middle is full. Maybe someone can confirm? I have 3k on my 18 and it's been in the middle since I bought it a year ago.

NORCAL SS · Jul 7, 2019

I am not sure I buy the idea that so many trucks left the factory low on oil. Or, that the dealer didn't do PDI. Is there so few where this makes sense?

Anyone see the Ford oil consumption warnings this week?

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