Cam Phaser/Engine Failure Reports

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GLT

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It's been mixed. My dealer claimed it's normal operation. I've hired an attorney and have endless videos time stamped of the rattle and knock. My noise is definitely changing as I have a start up rattle for 2-3 seconds, then what sounds like change or bolts being shaken in a metal coffee can for the first minute or so (this has progressively gotten worse), and then turns into a knock from the passenger side of the truck.

What you're describing is exactly what my wife's 2018 Expedition is doing. Amazingly, I haven't had any issues with my '17 Raptor, so far (knocks on wood...). Both have right at 23K miles.
 

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2017, Feb build, 34,5xx miles. Just talked to the service contact at dealer. Replacing all four phasers and camshafts(???). Asked, no chain ordered.
 

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Wanted to report in that I may be joining the club experiencing the rattle, with my 2018 SCREW manufactured 9/17 it occurs not only at startup but under conditions identical to TSB 18-2354. I'll be heading into the dealer this Thursday for diagnosis. Here is what mine sounds like.


 

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Wanted to report in that I may be joining the club experiencing the rattle, with my 2018 SCREW manufactured 9/17 it occurs not only at startup but under conditions identical to TSB 18-2354. I'll be heading into the dealer this Thursday for diagnosis. Here is what mine sounds like.



Is it worse at cold startup?
 

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This is correct I’ll post them tomorrow too


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Dropping mine off Thursday. Sure would like a parts list...

Also, mine hasn’t rattled in awhile, but idles really ruff sometimes now at lights. Doesn’t seem to affect performance, but I can feel it in my seat...


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Dropping mine of Thursday. Sure would like a parts list...

Also, mine hasn’t rattled in awhile, but idles really ruff sometimes now at lights. Doesn’t seem to affect performance, but I can feel it in my seat...


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Same here Crash with the rough idle. These are the parts I am having replaced that Ford approved:

4 VCT solenoids
2 intake phasers
2 Exhaust phasers
1 primary timing chain
2 secondary timing chains
1 primary timing chain tensioner
1 left primary chain arm
1 right primary chain arm
1 left chain guide
1 right primary chain guide
2 secondary timing chain tensioner
2 secondary tensioner shoes
2 intake cam bolts
2 exhaust cam bolts
 

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Same here Crash with the rough idle. These are the parts I am having replaced that Ford approved:

4 VCT solenoids
2 intake phasers
2 Exhaust phasers
1 primary timing chain
2 secondary timing chains
1 primary timing chain tensioner
1 left primary chain arm
1 right primary chain arm
1 left chain guide
1 right primary chain guide
2 secondary timing chain tensioner
2 secondary tensioner shoes
2 intake cam bolts
2 exhaust cam bolts


So do you have a gen1?

If not that list is for gen1. These have 2 primary chains no secondary (if no one else mentioned this)


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