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feeler into seeing how many people are interested in a group buy for the ****** max ci360. this is a custom installed system and is not your hang on the mirror radar detector. if we get enough interest i will go ahad and open it up. send me a message and i will let you know the cost. we would need a minimum of 10 people for the special pricing though. although this is posted in the gen 1 section, this is for all year trucks. we did a 2nd gen truck and have pics for people contemplating install.
 

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Wow, just looked and yikes! Are they worth the coin? What's the next best below a grand option?
 

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Wow, just looked and yikes! Are they worth the coin? What's the next best below a grand option?

if you are unfortunate enough to live in, around or near a “known speed trap” jurisdiction, $1k is about the first year’s impact of an 11 over speeding ticket and the impact lasts 3-5 years depending on the state. Can you mitigate this? yes, somewhat, but a moving violation condition implicates your insurance rates.

As an example, you’re busted doing 20 over in the “known speed trap”. the AO “does you a favor” by reducing the charge to 11 over [in the hopes you don’t go to court, but he says because he likes you, you’re a nice guy, now be safe]. You decide to abdicate your duty as a citizen to make the prosecution prove your guilt of this scurrilous allegation of wrongdoing and pay the traffic fine, plus court costs, and admin fees, even though you don’t go to court. All in, you’re about $400 bucks. The infraction is probably 1/2 or slightly more.

Within 4 hours of receiving your admission of guilt, your driving record sports a brand new moving infraction and within about 30 minutes your auto insurance carriers are notified. Within about a month, you get your “notice of revised rates”.

Depending on a myriad of byzantine evaluation criteria, you could take anywhere from a 1% - 25% surcharge, SCOFFLAW. you’ll be charged extra for at least as long as 3 years, and often more.

There are a number of ways to mitigate the impact. some states allow pre-conviction traffic school, post conviction traffic school, and a host of other ideas to make you OBEY. Guess who oversees and regulates traffic schools?

I know there are some on FRF who are reading and thinking “good thing I can just badge my way out”. If you can, you’re not dealing with a speed trap area. I know. Decades ago I was next-door to a cop with a uniformed agency in DC. He was stopped almost weekly by Charles county deputies, always for speeding, always within 7mph over the limit, sometimes as little as 2mph. His Mitsubishi was known by appearance and plate and he had FP tags. Back in that era, the entire county was renowned for ’speeding 1-5mph over the limit’ tickets. It was how the sheriff’s office stayed afloat. This is bad policing, but it happens. And yes, he was cited more than once, badge be damned.

Some states say the ‘automatically expire’ moving violations, but this is usually a ruse. Insurance companies can find your conviction data years on. Maryland, and I’m not sure how many others, permits an expungement if you’re clean for so long. To the best of my knowledge, once expunged all they can see is you expunged your record, I know insurance companies charge more for a driver with an expungement, but significantly less than someone with a history of moving violations.

A good detection system is an investment in keeping your discretionary money from finding its way into the state/local coffers. Depending your driving habits, record and if you’re “that guy”, it may well be worth it.
 

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if you are unfortunate enough to live in, around or near a “known speed trap” jurisdiction, $1k is about the first year’s impact of an 11 over speeding ticket and the impact lasts 3-5 years depending on the state. Can you mitigate this? yes, somewhat, but a moving violation condition implicates your insurance rates.

As an example, you’re busted doing 20 over in the “known speed trap”. the AO “does you a favor” by reducing the charge to 11 over [in the hopes you don’t go to court, but he says because he likes you, you’re a nice guy, now be safe]. You decide to abdicate your duty as a citizen to make the prosecution prove your guilt of this scurrilous allegation of wrongdoing and pay the traffic fine, plus court costs, and admin fees, even though you don’t go to court. All in, you’re about $400 bucks. The infraction is probably 1/2 or slightly more.

Within 4 hours of receiving your admission of guilt, your driving record sports a brand new moving infraction and within about 30 minutes your auto insurance carriers are notified. Within about a month, you get your “notice of revised rates”.

Depending on a myriad of byzantine evaluation criteria, you could take anywhere from a 1% - 25% surcharge, SCOFFLAW. you’ll be charged extra for at least as long as 3 years, and often more.

There are a number of ways to mitigate the impact. some states allow pre-conviction traffic school, post conviction traffic school, and a host of other ideas to make you OBEY. Guess who oversees and regulates traffic schools?

I know there are some on FRF who are reading and thinking “good thing I can just badge my way out”. If you can, you’re not dealing with a speed trap area. I know. Decades ago I was next-door to a cop with a uniformed agency in DC. He was stopped almost weekly by Charles county deputies, always for speeding, always within 7mph over the limit, sometimes as little as 2mph. His Mitsubishi was known by appearance and plate and he had FP tags. Back in that era, the entire county was renowned for ’speeding 1-5mph over the limit’ tickets. It was how the sheriff’s office stayed afloat. This is bad policing, but it happens. And yes, he was cited more than once, badge be damned.

Some states say the ‘automatically expire’ moving violations, but this is usually a ruse. Insurance companies can find your conviction data years on. Maryland, and I’m not sure how many others, permits an expungement if you’re clean for so long. To the best of my knowledge, once expunged all they can see is you expunged your record, I know insurance companies charge more for a driver with an expungement, but significantly less than someone with a history of moving violations.

A good detection system is an investment in keeping your discretionary money from finding its way into the state/local coffers. Depending your driving habits, record and if you’re “that guy”, it may well be worth it.


Funny (or not) that you write this. On Wednesday I got nabbed in a speed trap for 77 in a 55. First time in like 10 years. The trooper gave me the same story you noted and wrote it for 69 in a 55. Said he saved me $100. So $129 instead of $229. Will call my agent Monday. Last time he said if you had no other tickets in the last 3 years to just pay it and your rates won't go up. Mine didn't. I wonder about now?
 
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Funny (or not) that you write this. On Wednesday I got nabbed in a speed trap for 77 in a 55. First time in like 10 years. The trooper gave me the same story you noted and wrote it for 69 in a 55. Said he saved me $100. So $129 instead of $229. Will call my agent Monday. Last time he said if you had no other tickets in the last 3 years to just pay it and your rates won't go up. Mine didn't. I wonder about now?

Hire a lawyer. It normally cost less than $100 in addition to you paying the ticket. Given your clean record, the lawyer can prevent you from having points go on your license and prevent you from having to go to driving school. I got nabbed the other day for going 19 mph over the speed limit. I called my lawyer the very next day.

I will probably be adding shifters myself where I don't have to worry about it again.
 

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Will call my agent Monday. Last time he said if you had no other tickets in the last 3 years to just pay it and your rates won't go up. Mine didn't. I wonder about now?
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Hire a lawyer

What he said.

When your house is on fire, do you call your insurance agent? No, you call the fire department.

When your house was robbed, do you call your agent? No, you call the police, fill out some reports on the stolen goods.

When your chest suddenly starts to hurt, do you call the 1800 number on the pepto bismol bottle? I hope not.

So yeah, you can call your insurance agent. OR you can call someone who can actually help. You may not need to go to court, or maybe you do. Either way, a lawyer who works traffic cases will be able to help you. You could try to plead to a non moving violation, or if you’re in for a fight, you could contest the citation. Knuckling under and paying the revenuer fine only makes it easier for the cop to do the same thing to someone else.
 

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What he said.

When your house is on fire, do you call your insurance agent? No, you call the fire department.

When your house was robbed, do you call your agent? No, you call the police, fill out some reports on the stolen goods.

When your chest suddenly starts to hurt, do you call the 1800 number on the pepto bismol bottle? I hope not.

So yeah, you can call your insurance agent. OR you can call someone who can actually help. You may not need to go to court, or maybe you do. Either way, a lawyer who works traffic cases will be able to help you. You could try to plead to a non moving violation, or if you’re in for a fight, you could contest the citation. Knuckling under and paying the revenuer fine only makes it easier for the cop to do the same thing to someone else.

Umm, no one said there was going to be a test.
 
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Umm, no one said there was going to be a test.

If the lawyer gets the judge to agree not to add points to your license and/or driving school, then your insurance cannot raise your rates by law. If you don't go the lawyer route and those state of affairs do happen (license points/driving school), then your insurance can raise your rates if they so choose. I paid my lawyer $70. Well worth the money.

@smurfslayer I want to say that shifters are illegal in VA and DC, but legal in all other states. So there wasn't much your friend could do.
 

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If the lawyer gets the judge to agree not to add points to your license and/or driving school, then your insurance cannot raise your rates by law. If you don't go the lawyer route and those state of affairs do happen (license points/driving school), then your insurance can raise your rates if they so choose. I paid my lawyer $70. Well worth the money.

@smurfslayer I want to say that shifters are illegal in VA and DC, but legal in all other states. So there wasn't much your friend could do.


OK. So where do you find a $70-100 traffic lawyer in BFE?
 
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