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Hi all,
I'm looking to buy a toy hauler for my '19 Screw. I've never owned a big travel trailer like that before...only had a small utility trailer in the past and currently have a teardrop trailer. So, a lot of what I'm going to ask may be considered newbie questions (and/or stupid questions...haha), but I'm trying to make sure I have as much info as possible. I like to research before buying something!
Anyway, I'm looking at something like a Forest River Grey Wolf 22RR, or maybe a 25RRT or 26RR. I've got a few questions related to things I've been reading online and in the user manual:
- I see that it's definitely recommended/necessary to get a weight distributing hitch, but I don't know anything about them. I believe I want 10-15% of total weight for the tongue weight, so depending on the model and loading, I'll have a tongue weight around 600-800lbs. I'm assuming I can get a WDH that's built for that range, right? Other than being able to get them in different sizes, they have a pretty universal fit, correct? Any recommendations on a good (but also cost effective) option for the WDH?
- I was looking at Andersen WDHs, and I see they come with different drop/rise amounts. How do I figure out what one I need before I drive hundreds of miles to go pick up a trailer (there aren't any local to me)? I need the WDH before I can tow it, but won't know the height of the trailer when level until I get to the trailer, right? I can't seem to find that spec anywhere online...
- When looking at certain WDH info, I saw something about surge brakes...what are surge brakes? It seems to be something built into the trailer (or maybe something you can add on later), but is that something that's compatible with the Raptor? Again, I don't know what I'm talking about here...
- I've seen some info online about bump stops, and/or bump stop kits. Is that something I'd need to look into? Again, any good (and cost effective) options there?
- Are the stock springs going to be sufficient?
- Is there a way to do an air bag setup with the Raptor? Or is that not even possible, or a bad idea, etc? I don't know anything about air bag suspensions, other than knowing that I have a couple friends with trucks (not Raptors) that have air bags for hauling/towing.
- Anything else I am missing out on that I'll need to do in order to tow a toy hauler?
Thanks!
Dry weight of the Grey Wolf 25RRT is only 5900lb, with a GVWR of 7690lb (which is below the 8000lb capacity).Seems heavy, toy haulers weigh much more than typical camper.
Then you also want to put stuff in, too.
The thing I like about the Grey Wolf models that I'm looking at is a front walkaround bed...I'm just not a fan of the corner bed solution. But, I added that link to my list of options! Thanks!I really think the Eclipse Attitude 21 is the best for the Raptor and it fits a four seater Can Am X3. Thoughts?
http://attitudetoyhaulers.com/attitude/attitude-limited/
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Thanks for the info, Dane (and, hello from the Denver area...I'm up in Westminster).
After looking at the surge brake info, I definitely remember seeing them on Uhauls now that you mention it. Glad to hear that the FR toy haulers have electric brakes.
I noticed that the WDHs I was looking at online have an adjustable height range, but the ranges were 0-4", or 0-8". I'd rather get the 0-4" if that's possible rather than the 0-8". That's the reason I was asking...it would be really unfortunate if I bought a 0-4" and needed 6" of drop, etc. Out of curiosity, what WDH do you have?
Also out of curiosity, what year/model FR toy hauler do you have? And what dealer did you use? Somebody local? I haven't found any Raptor friendly toy haulers in stock at local dealers, but I haven't looked everywhere yet.
I don't have anything specific in mind yet, but most side-by-sides seem to be in the 1200-1500lb weight range.How much does the Razr or whatever you're looking at buying weigh?
Hmm, I just may take you up on that! Much closer than driving all the way to Missouri (closest place I've found the Forest River model I'm looking at)!Oh hey, you're local. I didn't realize that. I had my dealer throw in an suitable WD hitch with mine - I don't have it memorized, but I'll go take a look in a bit and let you know what the WDH is.
I have a 2017 Palomino Puma XLE 24FBC. I had to go to Helper, UT to get it. The closest dealer is in Pueblo, but attempting to deal with that rinky **** operation was a joke. Helper was next closest. My requirements included a walk-around front bedroom and a fuel station - both very hard to find in the Raptor weight range.
https://www.rvusa.com/rv-guide/2017-palomino-puma-xle-lite-toy-hauler-floorplan-24fbc-tr31276
It's a haul, but my trailer is very similar to the weights of the ones you are looking at, if you ever feel like making the haul down to Littleton, you can test hooking up to mine if you like - give you an idea of what you are in for.
I think you're gonna be fine. I had people telling me when I was shopping for a travel trailer and a Raptor it's not a tow truck etc.I don't have anything specific in mind yet, but most side-by-sides seem to be in the 1200-1500lb weight range.
Thanks for the info, Dane (and, hello from the Denver area...I'm up in Westminster).
After looking at the surge brake info, I definitely remember seeing them on Uhauls now that you mention it. Glad to hear that the FR toy haulers have electric brakes.
I noticed that the WDHs I was looking at online have an adjustable height range, but the ranges were 0-4", or 0-8". I'd rather get the 0-4" if that's possible rather than the 0-8". That's the reason I was asking...it would be really unfortunate if I bought a 0-4" and needed 6" of drop, etc. Out of curiosity, what WDH do you have?
Also out of curiosity, what year/model FR toy hauler do you have? And what dealer did you use? Somebody local? I haven't found any Raptor friendly toy haulers in stock at local dealers, but I haven't looked everywhere yet.