Short Course style 3 Link Rear

[Canuck714]

I have been playing around with a 3 Link/4 link design simulator, looking for options on linking the back of our trucks. I think I can get a 3 link short course style set up fit under the truck that will keep stock frame and fuel tank, and use a bolt in bed cage to hold the coilover/bypass setup.

I discussed this setup with a friend that builds/races a linked 7100 series truck, and he thinks it would doable and work good.
Obviously there will be a need to weld mounts to the frame and rear axel, but the system itself would be 2 lower links, an angled R-side upper, and a frame mount with trackbar, and bedcage.

If we design a set-up in CAD and offer it forsale, do you think there would be interest from the Raptor community?

 

[Booth9999]

If this was built and reasonably priced you would have a bunch of customers

 

[zombiekiller]

if you somehow figure out how to defy physics, you'll be a billionaire.

Every raptor that I've ever seen that didn't have a full cage and the appropriate torsional rigidity that comes with it, is always chasing side to side movement, cracked supports, lots of maintenance and very little of the "reward".

Do what ya feel, but driving a raptor beyond what a mid-travel front, sprung under rear truck can do ( with quality shocks and suspension tuning) is a death wish.

in many cases, most of the good drivers can outrun a linked truck in a well-sorted sprung under truck.

"a good driver in a mediocre truck will always beat a shit driver in the best truck out there." - pistol pete

I recommend "driver mod" before cutting the back of the truck up.

becoming a great driver is WAY more expensive than buying or building a short course setup though.

 

[Canuck714]

if you somehow figure out how to defy physics, you'll be a billionaire.

Every raptor that I've ever seen that didn't have a full cage and the appropriate torsional rigidity that comes with it, is always chasing side to side movement, cracked supports, lots of maintenance and very little of the "reward".

Do what ya feel, but driving a raptor beyond what a mid-travel front, sprung under rear truck can do ( with quality shocks and suspension tuning) is a death wish.

in many cases, most of the good drivers can outrun a linked truck in a well-sorted sprung under truck.

"a good driver in a mediocre truck will always beat a shit driver in the best truck out there." - pistol pete

I recommend "driver mod" before cutting the back of the truck up.

becoming a great driver is WAY more expensive than buying or building a short course setup though.

I agree with Pistols quote... I can handle myself in that department, but I am seeking an alternative to the conventional over/under set up and moving to a coilover/bypass set up.
I'll have to reach out to some of my fab sources regarding the cracked mounts and torsional rigidity. You may be correct regarding the force and load that can be achieved with a linked back end and not enough triangulated tube work to compensate.

Regardless... I may forge ahead.

 

[Pacific Wheel]

if you somehow figure out how to defy physics, you'll be a billionaire.

Every raptor that I've ever seen that didn't have a full cage and the appropriate torsional rigidity that comes with it, is always chasing side to side movement, cracked supports, lots of maintenance and very little of the "reward".

Do what ya feel, but driving a raptor beyond what a mid-travel front, sprung under rear truck can do ( with quality shocks and suspension tuning) is a death wish.

in many cases, most of the good drivers can outrun a linked truck in a well-sorted sprung under truck.

"a good driver in a mediocre truck will always beat a shit driver in the best truck out there." - pistol pete

I recommend "driver mod" before cutting the back of the truck up.

becoming a great driver is WAY more expensive than buying or building a short course setup though.

I agree with 99% of this but it's hard to argue against Kibbetech and some of his non caged "short course" link setups. "Grey Truck" might just defy physics lol. It is of course much more than just a short course link kit but that truck never ceases to amaze me.

And Ryan may have a death wish after watching him huck/send (whatever the cool kids call it these days) that truck 10+ feet in the air.

 

[Canuck714]

PW.. that's exactly where I was headed, Kibbe and Rust Lab have built some pretty cool linked trucks that perform great on and off road that are not caged. I'm not looking to link it like a TT, I want to have comparable suspension travel as a sprung under setup but get away from the leafs.
At some point I will likely cage my truck for safety reasons, as the place I run at has sections where I am seeing 100+mph on my current 3.0 leaf set-up...

 

[Idleone]

I'm interested for sure

 

[zombiekiller]

PW.. that's exactly where I was headed, Kibbe and Rust Lab have built some pretty cool linked trucks that perform great on and off road that are not caged. I'm not looking to link it like a TT, I want to have comparable suspension travel as a sprung under setup but get away from the leafs.
At some point I will likely cage my truck for safety reasons, as the place I run at has sections where I am seeing 100+mph on my current 3.0 leaf set-up...

I think you'll find that kibbe is doing interior cages and still going through the cab wall. you almost have to in order to get the appropriate triangulation/ rigidity.

I wouldnt want to drive a linked truck hard without an interior cage, and I personally dont have any interest in driving a caged truck, on the street, without a helmet.

to each their own though. I just prefer to not split my head open on an interior cage because I ran to the store and didnt want to roll into the grocery store with a helmet on.

 

[Pacific Wheel]

http://www.fourwheeler.com/features/1703-2011-chevy-silverado-the-galloping-ghost/

"Though you won’t find a full cage inside, the interior is what Kibbetech call “stock modified.” A set of PRP front buckets join with a custom-made rear bench seat, all of which were mounted custom-made bolt-in mounts. Sets of 5-point PRP harnesses are mounted to a custom KT made harness bar. The stock gauge cluster is gone, and in its place is a Holley Digital Dash that is part of the integrated EFI system, but we’ll get to that in a minute. In front of the Holley unit is a Sparco steering wheel with a quick release hub."

 

[zombiekiller]

http://www.fourwheeler.com/features/1703-2011-chevy-silverado-the-galloping-ghost/

"Though you won’t find a full cage inside, the interior is what Kibbetech call “stock modified.” A set of PRP front buckets join with a custom-made rear bench seat, all of which were mounted custom-made bolt-in mounts. Sets of 5-point PRP harnesses are mounted to a custom KT made harness bar. The stock gauge cluster is gone, and in its place is a Holley Digital Dash that is part of the integrated EFI system, but we’ll get to that in a minute. In front of the Holley unit is a Sparco steering wheel with a quick release hub."

Well, That silverado is pretty damn different than a raptor. I'm just going off of what I've seen and heard from those that tried to do something in between full cage/linked and leaf sprung.

There are a lot of very complicated rigidity problems to solve on the raptors that are not so prevalent in the chevy trucks.