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<blockquote data-quote="CK@UPP" data-source="post: 793431" data-attributes="member: 12273"><p>I've been contemplating the best way to address this without throwing anyone under the bus or airing out dirty laundry. The main reason TMX and us are not working together on this anymore is the person that was with TMX that we were dealing directly with (and whom owned the Raptor we were using) is no longer with TMX.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I wouldn't quite call anything a catastrophic problem. Yes, there were some issues, and we've taken the time to address those. The biggest problem that was seen with Danny's truck (the fire) wasn't even quite attributable to the TT kit. At some point installing the long tube headers (before UPP) the dipstick tube was broken, and never replaced. We addressed this with Danny when he picked up the truck, but in a rush for the race the following weekend, it was never replaced. During the race the added crank case pressure blew oil out of the break in the dipstick tube and onto the hot manifolds. This is what caused the fire. This can be seen with the heat signatures we saw and the hottest place being the melted dipstick tube. Overall though, Danny was able to act fast and prevent any real damage. The wiring harness was burned a bit, but I was able to repair the majority of that (and fire up the truck) in the short time when I came to TX to assess the damage.</p><p></p><p>Because of this we are going to be ceramic coating the exhaust piping (inside and out) which should lower the overall temperatures under the hood. We've also incorporated a heat shield for the brake reservoir.</p><p></p><p>Currently the only thing really holding us up is the tune. However we have partnered up with one of the regions best ford tuners to develop a good base tune for these to use as a starting point. Right now we have a F250 6.2L in the shop for this very reason, which we are working on. We are also working with HPTuners testing out their beta software for the new copperhead ECU's (Raptor, 5.0) to come up with the best overall solution. Once we create the base tune for these we can include it with the kit, along with remote tuning support from our tuner for final changes once in the field.</p><p></p><p>CK</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CK@UPP, post: 793431, member: 12273"] I've been contemplating the best way to address this without throwing anyone under the bus or airing out dirty laundry. The main reason TMX and us are not working together on this anymore is the person that was with TMX that we were dealing directly with (and whom owned the Raptor we were using) is no longer with TMX. I wouldn't quite call anything a catastrophic problem. Yes, there were some issues, and we've taken the time to address those. The biggest problem that was seen with Danny's truck (the fire) wasn't even quite attributable to the TT kit. At some point installing the long tube headers (before UPP) the dipstick tube was broken, and never replaced. We addressed this with Danny when he picked up the truck, but in a rush for the race the following weekend, it was never replaced. During the race the added crank case pressure blew oil out of the break in the dipstick tube and onto the hot manifolds. This is what caused the fire. This can be seen with the heat signatures we saw and the hottest place being the melted dipstick tube. Overall though, Danny was able to act fast and prevent any real damage. The wiring harness was burned a bit, but I was able to repair the majority of that (and fire up the truck) in the short time when I came to TX to assess the damage. Because of this we are going to be ceramic coating the exhaust piping (inside and out) which should lower the overall temperatures under the hood. We've also incorporated a heat shield for the brake reservoir. Currently the only thing really holding us up is the tune. However we have partnered up with one of the regions best ford tuners to develop a good base tune for these to use as a starting point. Right now we have a F250 6.2L in the shop for this very reason, which we are working on. We are also working with HPTuners testing out their beta software for the new copperhead ECU's (Raptor, 5.0) to come up with the best overall solution. Once we create the base tune for these we can include it with the kit, along with remote tuning support from our tuner for final changes once in the field. CK [/QUOTE]
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