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<blockquote data-quote="Snowsled" data-source="post: 1219148" data-attributes="member: 25287"><p>At the risk of insulting a ton of people here, I think the point of reference needs to be considered here. The simple fact is the stock brakes are crap, I mean a 214 ft stop from 70 for a '10 Scab (C&D 12/09) is poor braking by any standard. </p><p></p><p>I think what you sell, especially the drilled rotors demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of the system in question. There is not enough heat sink, drilling a blank reduces its mass and ability to absorb heat even further. As I mentioned before, I do not think finding the longest lasting pad is any concern of mine. I want one that grabs in an attempt to improve the pathetic system the truck came with. </p><p></p><p>Now because what you push is better than what comes on the truck and, you are members of the Raptor community, and most have never experienced GOOD brakes, you have generated a substantial fan base. I will tell you honestly and you can call me arrogant but, I think I know better. I think my choices will stop better than yours. Maybe the pads will be dusty and squeal every now and then. Maybe they will wear out twice as fast as the ones you like. I think there is more performance to be had, at the expense of longevity.</p><p></p><p>The fact is the system is undersized to begin with and you can not have both durability and performance without making more substantial upgrades to the system.</p><p></p><p>So I am sure what you sell works, heck I have even recommended your set-up in other threads. What I seek is the best braking the stock system can provide. I don't see yours as aggressive enough for what I want. Cant we just disagree?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snowsled, post: 1219148, member: 25287"] At the risk of insulting a ton of people here, I think the point of reference needs to be considered here. The simple fact is the stock brakes are crap, I mean a 214 ft stop from 70 for a '10 Scab (C&D 12/09) is poor braking by any standard. I think what you sell, especially the drilled rotors demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of the system in question. There is not enough heat sink, drilling a blank reduces its mass and ability to absorb heat even further. As I mentioned before, I do not think finding the longest lasting pad is any concern of mine. I want one that grabs in an attempt to improve the pathetic system the truck came with. Now because what you push is better than what comes on the truck and, you are members of the Raptor community, and most have never experienced GOOD brakes, you have generated a substantial fan base. I will tell you honestly and you can call me arrogant but, I think I know better. I think my choices will stop better than yours. Maybe the pads will be dusty and squeal every now and then. Maybe they will wear out twice as fast as the ones you like. I think there is more performance to be had, at the expense of longevity. The fact is the system is undersized to begin with and you can not have both durability and performance without making more substantial upgrades to the system. So I am sure what you sell works, heck I have even recommended your set-up in other threads. What I seek is the best braking the stock system can provide. I don't see yours as aggressive enough for what I want. Cant we just disagree? [/QUOTE]
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