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<blockquote data-quote="Ruger" data-source="post: 1135973" data-attributes="member: 1594"><p>[MENTION=21926]smurfslayer[/MENTION], I appreciate your comments. I reply as follows:</p><p></p><p>I can't speak for 49 states, but I know of a certainty that when a Nevada LEO runs your driver's license he will be informed that you hold a CCW if in fact you do. Now, do you want the armed LEO to learn that you're armed from Dispatch or do you want him to learn it from you?</p><p></p><p>Where I come from, and I can speak for both Alabama and Nevada which are both open carry states, it is considered by LEOs to be s technical foul if you don't inform them that you're armed. Why? Because, the LEO has every right and every intention to go home whole and safe to his family at the end of his shift. That is his mindset, by the way. So if you're armed and you don't tell him, regardless of what the laws of your state require, what does it tell him? It tells him that you intended to keep your firearm a secret from him. And what might that lead him to conclude?</p><p></p><p>You don't want him to go that way! You don't want him to EVER wonder whether you might be a threat to him. You want him to know for certain that you are no threat to him going home safely at the end of his shift. You do that by communicating honestly with him. One very good way to do that is to present your CCW at the same time that you present your driver's license.</p><p></p><p>I do understand your concerns about some LEOs being poor gun handlers. My own approach to this, though I've never had to implement it, is to allow the LEO to disarm me himself if he asks me to surrender my weapon. I would try my damndest to not draw my weapon from my holster even though that's what an LEO has asked me to do. Drawing a weapon from holster can be interpreted as threatening. His body camera would record my pulling the weapon from my holster. I don't want that. I'll turn to the side and allow him to pull my weapon out, with verbal caution from me that it's this or that kind of weapon and does or does not have a safety. That way the freshest fingerprints on the weapon will be his, not mine, and his body camera will record that I never touched my weapon in his presence.</p><p></p><p>This is opinion. However, it is opinion based upon 30+ years of holding a CCW along with the training and experience that comes with being a reserve sheriff's deputy.</p><p></p><p>As to having a gun in the rig as well as on the person, no argument. The old saw is that your handgun is how you're going to fight your way to your long gun. Having a truck gun available is peace of mind, especially in some locales. But there's a trick to it. It need to be accessible to you and also needs to be theft proof. Worrying about whether your truck gun is being stolen is not peace of mind, and solving that problem can be tough for some vehicles and perhaps even impossible for others.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruger, post: 1135973, member: 1594"] [MENTION=21926]smurfslayer[/MENTION], I appreciate your comments. I reply as follows: I can't speak for 49 states, but I know of a certainty that when a Nevada LEO runs your driver's license he will be informed that you hold a CCW if in fact you do. Now, do you want the armed LEO to learn that you're armed from Dispatch or do you want him to learn it from you? Where I come from, and I can speak for both Alabama and Nevada which are both open carry states, it is considered by LEOs to be s technical foul if you don't inform them that you're armed. Why? Because, the LEO has every right and every intention to go home whole and safe to his family at the end of his shift. That is his mindset, by the way. So if you're armed and you don't tell him, regardless of what the laws of your state require, what does it tell him? It tells him that you intended to keep your firearm a secret from him. And what might that lead him to conclude? You don't want him to go that way! You don't want him to EVER wonder whether you might be a threat to him. You want him to know for certain that you are no threat to him going home safely at the end of his shift. You do that by communicating honestly with him. One very good way to do that is to present your CCW at the same time that you present your driver's license. I do understand your concerns about some LEOs being poor gun handlers. My own approach to this, though I've never had to implement it, is to allow the LEO to disarm me himself if he asks me to surrender my weapon. I would try my damndest to not draw my weapon from my holster even though that's what an LEO has asked me to do. Drawing a weapon from holster can be interpreted as threatening. His body camera would record my pulling the weapon from my holster. I don't want that. I'll turn to the side and allow him to pull my weapon out, with verbal caution from me that it's this or that kind of weapon and does or does not have a safety. That way the freshest fingerprints on the weapon will be his, not mine, and his body camera will record that I never touched my weapon in his presence. This is opinion. However, it is opinion based upon 30+ years of holding a CCW along with the training and experience that comes with being a reserve sheriff's deputy. As to having a gun in the rig as well as on the person, no argument. The old saw is that your handgun is how you're going to fight your way to your long gun. Having a truck gun available is peace of mind, especially in some locales. But there's a trick to it. It need to be accessible to you and also needs to be theft proof. Worrying about whether your truck gun is being stolen is not peace of mind, and solving that problem can be tough for some vehicles and perhaps even impossible for others. [/QUOTE]
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