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<blockquote data-quote="BajaFred" data-source="post: 1277403" data-attributes="member: 21782"><p>Hey brother - you're absolutely right. I worded my reply very carefully, and I'm disappointed in Truckzor.</p><p></p><p>Most people (wrongly, but I used to think the same, too) think BBKs magically help you stop shorter when the truth is you're limited by the grip of the tires. Both OEMs and BBKs can lock up the tires - it's up to tire vs ground friction at that point. Everyone overlooks this fact.</p><p></p><p>On the 1st panic stop, OEM (on a decent car i.e. OEM didn't ship cheap shit from the factory) and BBKs will stop within feet of each other. The video posted showed 136 OEM vs 125 Alcon on the 1st stop. If your BBK setup (plus new wheels & tires to fit larger brakes) weighs more than the OEM setup, you might actually see slightly longer stopping distance vs OEM.</p><p></p><p>I'm heavy on my brakes, too. Where BBKs shine is on repeated use and/or if needed, panic stops beyond the 1st one. OEMs will fade hard while BBKs will remain consistent.</p><p></p><p>I've done my own 70 to 0 tests with Baer, Brembo, etc over time and never saw "stopping power that can beat out super cars" like the other poster wrote - simply doesn't happen due to tires, not the brakes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BajaFred, post: 1277403, member: 21782"] Hey brother - you're absolutely right. I worded my reply very carefully, and I'm disappointed in Truckzor. Most people (wrongly, but I used to think the same, too) think BBKs magically help you stop shorter when the truth is you're limited by the grip of the tires. Both OEMs and BBKs can lock up the tires - it's up to tire vs ground friction at that point. Everyone overlooks this fact. On the 1st panic stop, OEM (on a decent car i.e. OEM didn't ship cheap shit from the factory) and BBKs will stop within feet of each other. The video posted showed 136 OEM vs 125 Alcon on the 1st stop. If your BBK setup (plus new wheels & tires to fit larger brakes) weighs more than the OEM setup, you might actually see slightly longer stopping distance vs OEM. I'm heavy on my brakes, too. Where BBKs shine is on repeated use and/or if needed, panic stops beyond the 1st one. OEMs will fade hard while BBKs will remain consistent. I've done my own 70 to 0 tests with Baer, Brembo, etc over time and never saw "stopping power that can beat out super cars" like the other poster wrote - simply doesn't happen due to tires, not the brakes. [/QUOTE]
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