40" behind grill vs. 20" in lower grill

I have a 40" bar behind my grill it does decent compared to stock halogens [emoji23] but I paid 100 bucks shipped for the thing so I don't really care it helps in the dunes


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I guess this is why i ask questions and search (still don't quite get the price per lumen thing).

What they are saying is a good 20" in the bumper is more bang for the buck than a good 40" behind the grill


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Ramathorn178 said:

Kinda the boat im in.

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I mounted two 6" VisionX Xmitter Primes right on my winch plate, they throw a ton of light and the setup worked great. Then you get light AND a winch. But I also have a 40" behind my grill (a cheap one) and it throws a very good amount of light as well.
http://www.fordraptorforum.com/f11/sdhq-winch-plate-lighting-installed-pics-16241/

lumens are only a measurement of light output, not useable light. you can have the brightest led chip for your light, but without proper optics its not going to work well. lumens is just a way of marketing to me. im more worried about the optics and how well they control the light coming from the led.

The Car Stereo Company said:

lumens are only a measurement of light output, not useable light. you can have the brightest led chip for your light, but without proper optics its not going to work well. lumens is just a way of marketing to me. im more worried about the optics and how well they control the light coming from the led.

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Agreed, but it is a useful measurement when comparing similar lights.

Lumens are essentially how much "raw power" a light has, but that is nothing if the optics do not control that power. Think of a high hp car, with economy tires.... Hahaha

hey guys, I was looking into getting a 20" now that ive heard its better than a 40" behind the grill. What would you say the best bar is for 20". Ive heard alot about the 20" Vision X Xmitter prime Xtreme and the BD onyx. Anyone have any others that are decent? What bar would you say is better? The onyx or Vision?

ossachuk said:

hey guys, I was looking into getting a 20" now that ive heard its better than a 40" behind the grill. What would you say the best bar is for 20". Ive heard alot about the 20" Vision X Xmitter prime Xtreme and the BD onyx. Anyone have any others that are decent? What bar would you say is better? The onyx or Vision?

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They are both extremely high end lights. Both have they're advantages. In this case, for the lower bumper grill opening, I would recommend the VisionX Xmitter Prime Xtreme as it has colossal amounts of light output and will give the most coverage in that spot.

As low as that mounting spot is, you cannot truly take advantage of the optics the BD Onx6 has. The bigger the optic (lens), the more refined (controlled) of a beam you will have and thus longer reach. The BD will out shine the VisionX unit at extreme distances, but the Vision X will give you the most useable light for that spot.

Give me a shout I've got both Vision X and Baja Designs in stock.

-Joseph Haynes

Get a 20 and 2 40s. Beats any 20 on its own

40" behind grill vs. 20" in lower grill

Ramathorn178 said:

I dont quite understand the price per lumen. Take for example KC c3 fog kit 4300 total and its $322, so would that be 4300/ $322 = $13 per lumen then just for arguement sake take an ebay/ amazon/ chinese knock off kit thats "rated at" 4300/ $160 = $26 per lumen. Now more than likely the knockoff kit is going to be waaaaay hyped on numbers but, that math works out that the legit KC's are cheaper per lumen just because the price is more expensive or did i misread it?







Kinda the boat im in.

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Your math is backwards
$160/4300 = $ .037 ( 3.7 cents) per lumen
$322/4300 = $ .075 ( 7.5 cents) per lumen
If it was $13 per lumen X 4300 = $55,900 light bar.
The Chinese bars look very bright up close but their distance is horrible.