Starter Motor Bolts?

I found out that I'm missing bottom bolts and the stud bolt for the two ground wires was loose.
Well I was able to get the bolt info from my dealer (M8- 35 mm long).
But he said there are three bolts in the parts diagram, two regular and one stud.
I can only get my hands so far, I cannot feel the third bolt or the hole if that one fell out too.

Can anyone confirm?

Removal and Installation

WARNING: Always disconnect the battery ground cable at the battery before disconnecting the starter motor battery terminal lead. If a tool is shorted at the starter motor battery terminal, the tool can quickly heat enough to cause a skin burn. Failure to follow this instruction may result in serious personal injury.

With the vehicle in NEUTRAL, position it on a hoist. For additional information, refer to Section 100-02 .
Disconnect the battery ground cable. For additional information, refer to Section 414-01 .
Remove the terminal cover.
Remove the nut and disconnect the starter solenoid S-terminal eyelet.
To install, tighten to 5 Nm (44 lb-in).
Remove the nut and disconnect the starter solenoid B+ terminal eyelet.
To install, tighten to 12 Nm (106 lb-in).
Remove the nut and disconnect the starter motor ground cable eyelet.
To install, tighten to 25 Nm (18 lb-ft).
NOTE: Tighten the upper bolt before tightening the lower fasteners.

Remove the stud bolt, the 2 bolts and the starter motor.
To install, tighten to 25 Nm (18 lb-ft).
To install, reverse the removal procedure.
Starter Motor — 5.0L (4V), 6.2L (2V)

Item Part Number Description
1 11N087 Terminal cover
2 W705790 Starter solenoid S-terminal nut
3 14463 Starter solenoid S-terminal eyelet
4 W706414 Starter solenoid B+ terminal nut
5 14463 Starter solenoid B+ terminal eyelet
6 N805024 Starter motor ground cable nut
7 14463 Starter motor ground cable eyelet
8 W704941 Starter motor mounting stud bolt
9 W704942 Starter motor mounting bolts (2 required)
10 11002 Starter motor

Thanks, my stud bolt is in the middle location and I cannot get my fingers to the very top of the starter. Damn cat and O2 sensor is in the way.l
I may have to go from the wheel well.
I'm going to have to find my dentist mirror, I will try again tomorrow.

Did you ever have any work done in that area, or should we all check our bolts?

Yes I had work done in that area three years ago, so I don't know what to say.

Most mechanics leave that top bolt out. Happened on my 02 lightning when the engine was replaced under warranty didnt see it till years later when , i installed race motor.

LOL, I may have to leave the top one alone for now as well.
I need the mirror, seven or so extensions a few swivels, just by quickly looking at yesterday.

One lesson Ford should take from GM, two 1/2" bolts from the bottom up.

Top bolt can be a bitch but with the right extensions and knuckles you can get to it pretty easily.

When my starter "failed" at havoc, I found one bolt missing and another one half way backed out.

MTF said:

LOL, I may have to leave the top one alone for now as well.
I need the mirror, seven or so extensions a few swivels, just by quickly looking at yesterday.

One lesson Ford should take from GM, two 1/2" bolts from the bottom up.

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Ford had 2 bolts for years, don't know why they changed. My Stang only has 2 bolts.

I tried YouTube to find an easy way out but the Raptor is way different than all those F150 vids.
I wish we had all that room!