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Just put in a JL audio system and it works great thanks to Nav-TV s Interface module ZEN-A2B than is ...


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Old 05-15-2018, 04:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Banana Now there is interface for the B&O system
Just put in a JL audio system and it works great thanks to
Nav-TV s Interface module ZEN-A2B than is feeding a monoblock and a six channel amp, will put pics later ;)

Love my 2018 Raptor ;)




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Do you work for Nav-TV? That piece is a ripoff at $850.


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I didn't see that we branched off into another thread (2018 Sound Upgrade Problems).

What I said in the other thread was:

I just found this piece yesterday and called them. At present this is the only option for B&O amplified systems.
@BBLV yes and no. The new B&O amp uses serial USB to get digital audio from the sync 3 APIM to the amp. So, it would honestly be possible to harvest the audio. But someone is going to have to figure out what protocol/drivers is/are used to send the digital audio to the B&O amp. My guess is that NAV-TV paid a lot to figure this out, and the B&O amp is a DAC and Amplifier. So the NAV-TV piece is a USB DAC and pre-amp. Once it is sussed out, you could probably build a raspberry pi to decode the audio (from the USB), and output TOSLINK or RCA output. I wonder if you could plug a USB DAC in and get audio out. I have some USB DACs. But the NAV-TV piece is 12 channels out, that works with the sync's balance, fader, subwoofer, and mid/high/low EQ. So it might not work with my two channel DACs.

Alternatively, I keep asking if you could use ForSCAN (we already know the codes to control how audio is output from the APIM), and set the APIM back to the setting it used for the SONY amp, and then use the $250 PAC piece. I just don't have the time and disposable $250, to try it out. I will end up ordering this NAV-TV adapter in the next few weeks, so I can just have a shop do my stereo. If I keep waiting until I have the time to tinker with it, it will never get done.

I might catch a wild hair in the next couple of weeks and mess with the USB that is plugged into the B&O amp.
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Okay itīs not cheep but I wanted my audio done and now it works like I want it to and I donīt work for Nav-TV I live in Sweden
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Subscribing. $850 is high, but there will be more options soon. Hate the B&O amp POS and its impossible to get everything sounding right.
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It's not USB audio, be careful and don't try to plug the "USB" (HSCAR connector) into any PC equipment or you may damage the PC and / OR the amp / Radio.
It's an automotive audio standard called A2B:
Automotive Audio BusŪ (A2B) Digital Audio Bus Technology | Analog Devices

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Subscribing. $850 is high, but there will be more options soon. Hate the B&O amp POS and its impossible to get everything sounding right.
Seriously considering it but it is high. What other options do I have for my B&O system replacement ?

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I just found this on the F150Forum, https://www.f150forum.com/f30/zen-a2...ation-416294/:

"Got mine today. 44 hrs from giving credit card # to having it in my hands. Pretty good for international shipment!

She is all installed and worth every penny (to me anyway)

My Coles notes:

Unit is really small. About the size of two pack of smokes. Mounting tabs would be a nice touch. I wrapped some nylon tie straps around it and screwed it to the back side of my amp wall.

I ran optical output from the Zen to my Audiocontrol dm-810
At first, I thought I had full fader and balance control, but it turned out I didnt. Fader messes with the balance. With fader set to middle, balance works fine.

When tying into the Can Lo and Hi signal wires, you might be tempted to just cut the wire from the plug - there are two of each going into the factory amp plug, using common pin on the plug. The system needs the can low and hi to go through this, so you have to "tee" into one set of these, or else a bunch of other stuff wont work (like your dash, speedo, tach, radio (important)...

Overall instalation was quite simple.

SOUND QUALITY: !!!! WOW
One million percent improvement. No time delay messing with the signal summing... flat EQ.

I am sure pricing of this unit will come down when there is some competition, but I am more than satisfied."


If it really sounds that good it may be worth the price.... I already feel ripped of with the price of the B&O, so I might as well upgrade it or forever feel like I was screwed paying so much for a crappy sound system.

any thoughts guys ? I am new to this, Got my Raptor last week and I HATE the way it sounds !
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Does this Zen A2B solution allow you to remove the factory B&O amp, or does it just "T" into the digital signal line?


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Originally Posted by Probda View Post
It's not USB audio, be careful and don't try to plug the "USB" (HSCAR connector) into any PC equipment or you may damage the PC and / OR the amp / Radio.
It's an automotive audio standard called A2B:
Automotive Audio BusŪ (A2B) Digital Audio Bus Technology | Analog Devices

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Seriously considering it but it is high. What other options do I have for my B&O system replacement ?

---------- Post added at 08:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:32 PM ----------

I just found this on the F150Forum, https://www.f150forum.com/f30/zen-a2...ation-416294/:

"Got mine today. 44 hrs from giving credit card # to having it in my hands. Pretty good for international shipment!

She is all installed and worth every penny (to me anyway)

My Coles notes:

Unit is really small. About the size of two pack of smokes. Mounting tabs would be a nice touch. I wrapped some nylon tie straps around it and screwed it to the back side of my amp wall.

I ran optical output from the Zen to my Audiocontrol dm-810
At first, I thought I had full fader and balance control, but it turned out I didnt. Fader messes with the balance. With fader set to middle, balance works fine.

When tying into the Can Lo and Hi signal wires, you might be tempted to just cut the wire from the plug - there are two of each going into the factory amp plug, using common pin on the plug. The system needs the can low and hi to go through this, so you have to "tee" into one set of these, or else a bunch of other stuff wont work (like your dash, speedo, tach, radio (important)...

Overall instalation was quite simple.

SOUND QUALITY: !!!! WOW
One million percent improvement. No time delay messing with the signal summing... flat EQ.

I am sure pricing of this unit will come down when there is some competition, but I am more than satisfied."


If it really sounds that good it may be worth the price.... I already feel ripped of with the price of the B&O, so I might as well upgrade it or forever feel like I was screwed paying so much for a crappy sound system.

any thoughts guys ? I am new to this, Got my Raptor last week and I HATE the way it sounds !
I called and spoke to nav tv and they said balance and fader should work. I wonder if it only works if you use the rca out instead of the fiber out.

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