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Eibach Pro Lift Springs, Readylift rear Blocks, 37" tires on 2017 Raptor


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Ok so I am posting this because theres not a lot of great info on this setup and thought some ...


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Old 02-27-2018, 01:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok so I am posting this because theres not a lot of great info on this setup and thought some members might want to see it. It seems theres a little discussion of each of these but not too much reliable solid examples, unless I am missing something. Additionally, if I'm posting in the wrong section let me know I'll correct.

First off I'm sure there is plenty of people with opinions of how stupid this is, but its my money and I want to play with it. "Because I want to" is a perfectly suitable answer when you own this truck. With that said, I do in practicality need at least a few inches more ground clearance than I have now and if you've ever driven through the dry creek beds and potholed landscape of west Texas, then you get it.

Ill be updating with pictures after I get these on tomorrow.

Eibach Springs:
So I will be putting the Eibach Pro Lift front springs on my trucks. They got a lot of negative reviews compared to Geisner but its simply brand attachment I figure. A lot of people said the Eibach rides way rougher. You're free to have your opinions on this but its simple math to me, they both appear to settle the truck at the same height over stock (my guy called both manufacturers to confirm this), he did note that the settlement is generally regarded to take longer in the Eibachs. They are both linear springs meaning a consistent compression rate so therefore they are going to have the same stiffness, its just physics, really its just simple math. The same truck weight, applied to the same component with a consistent linear rate of compression, coming to SETTLE at the same height, means they have the same compression rate and therefore the same "stiffness". Note I did say the height that they "settle" at. I don't see any way linear springs are going to vary if they have the same compression rate. Ill let you guys know what I think and update with pictures after installation tomorrow.

Readylift Rear Blocks:
I ordered the 5" blocks(part# 26-2105) over the 4"blocks(part# 26-2104)as I don't mind having some rake on my truck especially since I have other toys that need trailered and will haul trailers regularly. The truck has blocks in it stock of approximately 2.75" so they'll increase the lift accordingly. Ill let you all know how much if at all this affects the ride.

37" tires:
After these are lifted up I will be putting some 37" tires on the factory wheels. I know plenty of people think its stupid, but I'm completely ok with it. Theres a ton of conflicting info out there it seems and I plan on putting it to bed when I get them on. I am not sure which tires yet, but if anyone has any recommendations before I head to the tire shop I'd love to hear it. I have seen that this can be done with minimal rubbing or with minimal cutting on the wheel wells and I have also seen some chainsaw hack jobs reported. So I'll know for sure soon. I don't mind occasional rubbing depending on the severity as I'll be offroading maybe only once a month, but will do my best to keep it to "trimming" instead of "cutting" if I absolutely have to.

Anyways thats what I got so far, let me know any feedback anyone has, and again "Because I Want To" is my reasoning. I think this setup is fairly cheap without messing and/or screwing too much with the already embedded factory attributes of the suspension, and one that most people can afford to do, not many people wanna spend the thousands of greenbacks to raise it up the "right" way, or may want larger tires without the spend on new fancy wheels with wider dimensions and offsets etc. i.e. a cheap way to get a few more inches off the ground that is needed for a fairly good price that wont break the bank or make all them factory goodies a waste. I prefer to spend the rest of my playin' round money on other upgrades and tinkerings of the sort that will be of more use. Anyways, let me know what you guys think
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37" tires and 5" blocks? I have to think you will have major axle wrap issues. I would ditch the big blocks and just the Deavers. They will also solve your towing issue.


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Axle wrap is a problem with the 2 inch blocks...its going to be really bad with 5's
Also the geisers are progressive rate springs. At a "midperch" height the ride like stock
Geisers+deavers is the best investment i have made in my truck, the ride is unreal
Eibachs and blocks are the cheap way out and you will hate the ride


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Axle wrap is a problem with the 2 inch blocks...its going to be really bad with 5's
Also the geisers are progressive rate springs. At a "midperch" height the ride like stock
Geisers+deavers is the best investment i have made in my truck, the ride is unreal
Eibachs and blocks are the cheap way out and you will hate the ride


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^^ Agreed with this guy 100%!

OP your truck is going to ride like garbage and not be an off-road worthy vehicle anymore, in fact I would be afraid to do any off roading in your Raptor after these changes. I understand your reasoning and that is totally fine. But you are doing the cheap out method and your trucks ride and abilities will be severely compromised.

We all have the right to do as we please and God Bless you for going this route haha.

Keep us posted.

Adding 37s will just limit any off road capabilities that much further but once again your money and your truck so go and try it out. I have a feeling you will switch it up after not too long.

Are you planing on this truck just being a highway cruiser?


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Originally Posted by ogdobber View Post
Axle wrap is a problem with the 2 inch blocks...its going to be really bad with 5's
Also the geisers are progressive rate springs. At a "midperch" height the ride like stock
Geisers+deavers is the best investment i have made in my truck, the ride is unreal
Eibachs and blocks are the cheap way out and you will hate the ride


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Concur with this as well.

My brother's truck has Geisers, Deaver +3s, camburg shackles, Icon UCAs, RR slot delete, and BFG 37s. Got some seat time in it a couple weeks ago. The ride is really impressive and the truck is more capable than stock.

Suspect OP's truck will both ride worse and be less capable than stock. So basically a double negative. Doesn't seem worth it to save a couple bucks and end up with a bastardized Raptor to me. Too nice a truck to mess it up with cheap parts.


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You will still crash into rear fenders if you offroad.

When setting up height/mockup, i was checking if +4 deavers would work better and running svc cas with eibach and adjusting rake. I put 4" blocks in to adjust which raised the rear 1.5 inches, still 37" were a bad idea. 4" blocks had some axle wrap...not good.
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You may all be right but I’m just picking it up so we will see. Right off the bat it definitely has more rake than I calculated because it looks like the front springs didn’t lift it up as much as it said. I’ll get the tape measure out when I get home. The Deaver’s are my next route if I don’t like it just wanted to see if there was an option that worked for about over a thousand less. I know he ride will be affected but it’s a 90% highway truck so I can live with it. Usually off-road about 4 days a month. If it’s not worth it I’ll switch them out. Honestly I just need a few more inches for getting over what I’m planning on getting over. I won’t be doing any high performance off reading unless the opportunity presents itself. West Texas has a lot of junk that limits your speed in the desert. I’m gonna drive to Oklahoma now to allow everything a little time to settle and I’ll put before and after measures up and pictures. I’ll let you know how awful my truck is now after getting some mud time in this weekend


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You may all be right but Iím just picking it up so we will see. Right off the bat it definitely has more rake than I calculated because it looks like the front springs didnít lift it up as much as it said. Iíll get the tape measure out when I get home. The Deaverís are my next route if I donít like it just wanted to see if there was an option that worked for about over a thousand less. I know he ride will be affected but itís a 90% highway truck so I can live with it. Usually off-road about 4 days a month. If itís not worth it Iíll switch them out. Honestly I just need a few more inches for getting over what Iím planning on getting over. I wonít be doing any high performance off reading unless the opportunity presents itself. West Texas has a lot of junk that limits your speed in the desert. Iím gonna drive to Oklahoma now to allow everything a little time to settle and Iíll put before and after measures up and pictures. Iíll let you know how awful my truck is now after getting some mud time in this weekend


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It looked bad at the shop but I guess it was slanted. Just got to my sisters and itís looking a lot more level itís sitting at 2.25-2.5Ē higher in the front and 2.25Ē higher in the rear. Iíll measure again when I get to Oklahoma and itís on more level ground and had a few 100 highway miles and a weekend of mud to see if it settles any. The 15 minute drive from the shop to my house I didnít notice anything different even over the speed humps but everything rides good on the street. Iíll play around some more the next couple days and see what happens
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Are you sure the Geisner is progressive? Everything I saw shows it to be a linear unless I’m mistaken. I’ll probably end up going with the Deaver’s in the long haul in the rear knowing me but wanted to give this a shot first. What do you mean axle wrap is an issue with the OEM blocks? I would think that the ones that come in there Stock wouldn’t be a detriment to the integrity of he truck, but I’m sure it wouldn’t be the first time. Just wondering why they have them in from the manufacturer if it’s bad for it


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