Here in my part of the great white north raptors are finally showing up. They have the 17 version of my 14. Fully loaded ruby red. Msrp 88,920.00 I paid 59,500 for mine. Granted i got a great deal. Sales geek asks if i want it.... I said nope.... call me when youre willing to deal. I aint getting bent over. I dont expect to hear from him anytime soon.