Any of you guys tow a trailer?

Icecobra said:

You might have a little confusion the GVWR (2014 Raptor 7450) mine is a 2012 and is showing 8000 GVWR and according to the page you posted it is (1) Single unit vehicles having a manufacturer's GVWR of 10,000 pounds or less

stopping distance from 20 MPH is 25 feet..

but further reading..

Upon application of its emergency brake system and with no other brake system applied, a motor vehicle or combination of motor vehicles must, under any condition of loading in which it is found on a public highway, be capable of stopping from 20 miles per hour in a distance, measured from the point at which movement of the emergency brake control begins, that is not greater than the distance specified in the table in paragraph

But there is a standard that is applied its not a free for all on the highway, if you can move it you can tow it...

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A little further down there is a specification for towing a trailer, and that one is 35 feet.

My Set up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlMuVXH57IE

Gunner75 said:

24' Pace loaded (generator, battery, winch, tools, etc, with 1970 GTO tucked in). Equilizer hitch about maxed out. Pulled great, pushing the comfy limit but that is how we roll out in the midwest.

Ditched the equalizer hitch, added RPG with tow bumps, even better. Haven't tested with equalizer and RPG, but similar ride height.

Actually this is with the RPG and Tow Bumps installed, no equalizer attached.

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The 4"bumps?

Yes sir this is with the 4" bumps. Actually pulls this tounge heavy trailer better than most would expect.
Only downside is hauling or running empty. Fairly harsh ride with the 4" bumps. Washboards are not friendly but doable.
This set up is as quick as equalizer hitch but I will say if I were to really haul distance I would run both and run the equalizer at a minimum just to aid the package.

I had a Platinum Max Tow 1/2 ton when I bought this truck and compared drop, and ride. No bs, static drop was the same. Of course on the road the Raptor would fall short, but even with the 2.5" RPG it would be better than the stock Max Tow with this trailer and load.

The 4" simply handles it at level.

Az Scooter said:

A little further down there is a specification for towing a trailer, and that one is 35 feet.

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that's for over 10,000 GVWR

Here is my setup.......The truck pulls it great! It weighs in around 7000#. The camper is a Keystone Premier 30 ft.

Gunner75 said:

Yes sir this is with the 4" bumps. Actually pulls this tounge heavy trailer better than most would expect.
Only downside is hauling or running empty. Fairly harsh ride with the 4" bumps. Washboards are not friendly but doable.
This set up is as quick as equalizer hitch but I will say if I were to really haul distance I would run both and run the equalizer at a minimum just to aid the package.

I had a Platinum Max Tow 1/2 ton when I bought this truck and compared drop, and ride. No bs, static drop was the same. Of course on the road the Raptor would fall short, but even with the 2.5" RPG it would be better than the stock Max Tow with this trailer and load.

The 4" simply handles it at level.

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I bet with the 4" bumps and the Equalizer, it would be a crazy towing machine!

I put the WSI HD springs on and just use my equalizer hitch to battle trailer sway in high winds.

Ticket?

Icecobra said:

I guess you don't get why being over max load capacity is bad so I will give you some information.. Overloaded means your breaking the law. If stopped by the police you can be cited for over weight which carries a per pound fine of being over weight. You are subject to immediate tow and impound of your vehicle from a public road way. You risk an accident even if you do everything right, your going to be found at fault for being over weight. Some smart attorney is going to see your over weight and take everything you have and everything you ever will have from you for his clients. The law views over weight towing as negligence and you can be cited for willful disregard for public safety and fined and or imprisoned. As to your warranty you violated the warranty on the truck when you exceeded the towing capacity. Not covered since you posted a picture on a public forum will be, the entire drive train and brake system...... You are placing you and others at risk for towing well beyond the trucks ability. Get back down to weight or get a proper tow vehicle and avoid the bad things that lurk around every corner. And police are taking a very active roll now in catching people exceeding tow capacity....

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Disregarding the accident potion of your statement, can you show me the law that applies to non commercial drivers and vehicles? This subject has come up on most every forum I have been on and I have never seen anybody show a ticket, nor prove the state law that a police officer would use to cite a non commercial driver for being over weight based on the door sticker . If you can prove that, my hats off to you. Respectfully Tim

Disregarding the accident potion of your statement, can you show me the law that applies to non commercial drivers and vehicles? This subject has come up on most every forum I have been on and I have never seen anybody show a ticket, nor prove the state law that a police officer would use to cite a non commercial driver for being over weight based on the door sticker . If you can prove that, my hats off to you. Respectfully Tim


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Here is a simple guide... Thought process, and yes there are citations on the books as explained by my local highway patrol office.

From California’s vehicle code:
Declared Gross Vehicle Weight Limit Violations: Penalties

42030.1. (a) Every person convicted of a violation of any declared gross vehicle weight limitation provision of this code, shall be punished by a fine that equals the amounts specified in the following table: I did not bother with the table but yes there is a code. All those papers you sign when buying your truck one was a statement of facts and weight certificate... So you know the limits upon purchase but to be honest who read every paper and knows exactly what your signing....

The other shoe is the insurance companies. We are hearing about more and more cases where one is in an accident, especially rollovers towing toy haulers, where the insurance company determines the vehicle was over weighted and then deny any payments to the vehicle's repair or replacement.

insurance which is probably void if you are over the manufacturers stated max weight, my policy clearly states this and I assume this clause would apply regardless of what mods you have made to account for the extra weight. If you cause an accident and they can link it to the truck being overweight, you'll have the book thrown at you. In this scenario they will also get you on another technicality, if you are driving with void insurance it is the same as driving with no insurance, in some states you can lose your license for this offense.

In the vehicle code the following applies according to my local CHP he said he recently gave two citations for this one...

A towed vehicle must not be allowed to swerve or whip from side to side. (VC Sec. 21711)

These things are just but a couple I turned up for you. I mean as long as your know where near my family when towing, tow what makes you happy. Just know the penalties are waiting for you if you have an accident. They can be charged and I sure based upon the current legal system one violation triggers ten more citations for other things... Just realize you are running a risk and is it worth it.... your playing you bet your life....

















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