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    Just placed order for 2013

    Anybody know the invoice price for a base supercrew? Curious to see how much it went up for 2013, KBB doesn't have the 2013 pricing loaded yet apparently. Or is posting that info frowned upon?
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    Is Ford putting Line-x on the 2013 model?

    It is their own blend, "Tough Bed". Liner Notes: All About Ford's New Factory Spray-In Bedliner I looked at a bed sprayed with Tough Bed and wasn't impressed. It may be factory applied but the coverage didn't seem that great. I could see some creases where the bedliner didn't get full...
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    Trying to decide between FX4/Ecoboost and Raptor

    Yeah I've pretty much decided the raptor will be the one. I've been reading more about the ecoboost and it's enough to scare me honestly. Fuel economy reports are all over the place even on stock models and it makes it sound like Ford has a bit more work to do to get this engine dialed in. As...
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    Hah, yeah, Raptor is going to be the one for me. Figure I'll wait for the '13s though. The HIDs...

    Hah, yeah, Raptor is going to be the one for me. Figure I'll wait for the '13s though. The HIDs will be very handy on the roads around here and I like the wheel option too.
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    Trying to decide between FX4/Ecoboost and Raptor

    Yeah the Raptor kind of seems like a no brainer really. It's astounding to me that the difference in invoice pricing for the FX4 with leather and a base Raptor is less than $1500. Considering everything you'd have to do to the FX4 to make it a capable off-roader, and even then it still wouldn't...
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    Trying to decide between FX4/Ecoboost and Raptor

    I'm trying to be rational about this, so I'm on the F150 forum too. It's funny though to read what people say over there about their FX4s. I was looking through the thread about lifted Ecoboosts. It's not looking so great for the Ecoboost's fuel economy with a lift and bigger tires. But the...
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    Trying to decide between FX4/Ecoboost and Raptor

    Thanks for the input guys. From what I've been reading, I'm somewhat optimistic that I might be able to average at least 15mpg on the highway if I keep a light foot. When I travel for work I just set the cruise control and sit back and listen to audiobooks. If I can manage at least 15mpg on the...
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    Trying to decide between FX4/Ecoboost and Raptor

    I live in Montana and frequently have to drive 200-400 miles per day for work, carrying a lot of gear. My recreational endeavors take me places accessed almost entirely by forest service roads and other generally poorly maintained dirt roads. Between September and May I also frequently encounter...
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    Looking to buy but......

    Keep us posted with where you decide to get yours and what kind of pricing you get. I live in Missoula and the dealer here won't budge from MSRP. We have a few other dealers in nearby towns, but I'm not sure how cooperative any of them will be.
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